Comments on: Buried Talents: Genesis, Part 2 (the meaning of “helper”) http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper Thu, 24 May 2012 15:27:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jay Guin http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-325394 Jay Guin Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:55:13 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-325394 Raven, If you'd read the rest of the series, you'd see that I'm arguing <em>against </em>the idea that God made "half of his people under the other half." But marriage is all about submission -- by both spouses. Raven,

If you’d read the rest of the series, you’d see that I’m arguing against the idea that God made “half of his people under the other half.”

But marriage is all about submission — by both spouses.

]]> By: Raven http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-324274 Raven Tue, 28 Feb 2012 05:44:51 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-324274 I believe you are way off..... man and woman were made at the same time. WOman was not formed out of man at the same time. The best way is to study this out, go to Gods word to women.org and see extensive studies I believe over 150 years or older and historical teachings and writings that are centuries old. No person leads over another person, study out submission, head, leader etc., in the above mentioned website. Be free and enlightened. God did not make half of his people under the other half. THAT would be unequally yoked. There is so much in the Word, please take off the veils and man taught , religion taught ways, Gods ways are true. I believe you are way off….. man and woman were made at the same time. WOman was not formed out of man at the same time. The best way is to study this out, go to Gods word to women.org and see extensive studies I believe over 150 years or older and historical teachings and writings that are centuries old.

No person leads over another person, study out submission, head, leader etc., in the above mentioned website. Be free and enlightened. God did not make half of his people under the other half. THAT would be unequally yoked.

There is so much in the Word, please take off the veils and man taught , religion taught ways, Gods ways are true.

]]> By: Re: Does the Bible recognize equality between men and women? « God Omnipotent http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2323 Re: Does the Bible recognize equality between men and women? « God Omnipotent Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:23:14 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2323 [...] [...] Clearly, a complement may be the more important or less important of the two parts of the whole under consideration. God was the complement of the Israelites, in that He won battles for them that they could not have won without Him, and yet the Israelites also had to fight. Just so, a general’s aides may be considered his complement, as those whom he needs to perform his duties. Thus, the word connotes neither superiority nor inferiority. [...] Now ‘ezer does have a deeper significance. God’s declaring Eve as complement means that God gave Eve a special role in relationship to the man. She is to complete, finish, and make God’s creation of man good. - Jay Guin [...] [...] [...] Clearly, a complement may be the more important or less important of the two parts of the whole under consideration. God was the complement of the Israelites, in that He won battles for them that they could not have won without Him, and yet the Israelites also had to fight. Just so, a general’s aides may be considered his complement, as those whom he needs to perform his duties. Thus, the word connotes neither superiority nor inferiority. [...] Now ‘ezer does have a deeper significance. God’s declaring Eve as complement means that God gave Eve a special role in relationship to the man. She is to complete, finish, and make God’s creation of man good. - Jay Guin [...]

]]> By: methodus http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2322 methodus Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:36:49 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2322 Thank you very much for the above. It comes as a great service seeing as I was just about to respond to a Muslim claim that the bible teaches that the woman is ontologically inferior to man. This is literally a godsend. Thank you very much for the above. It comes as a great service seeing as I was just about to respond to a Muslim claim that the bible teaches that the woman is ontologically inferior to man. This is literally a godsend.

]]> By: Beat Bisangwa http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2320 Beat Bisangwa Sat, 01 May 2010 20:35:19 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2320 Thank you for this!!! I will include this in my write up! God has given me the task of expounding on the biblical concept of women's rights in a very difficult cultural mindset. As such, I am looking for all possible answers and literature on the whole gender equality issue! I have refused to be boxed in believing concepts simple because some pastor interpreted the bible wrongs! So I appreciate these discussions! God bless you, Beat Thank you for this!!! I will include this in my write up!

God has given me the task of expounding on the biblical concept of women’s rights in a very difficult cultural mindset. As such, I am looking for all possible answers and literature on the whole gender equality issue! I have refused to be boxed in believing concepts simple because some pastor interpreted the bible wrongs! So I appreciate these discussions!

God bless you,

Beat

]]> By: Jay Guin http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2321 Jay Guin Sat, 01 May 2010 16:07:17 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2321 Beat, It's an honor to have you as a reader. I've covered this material both as an ebook and a series of blog posts. The ebook, "Buried Talents" is posted at <a href="http://oneinjesus.info/books-by-jay-guin/buried-talents/" rel="nofollow">http://oneinjesus.info/books-by-jay-guin/buried-t...</a>. The series, which is very nearly the same material, is indexed at <a href="http://oneinjesus.info/index-under-construction/theology-church-of-christ-issues/buried-talents-studies-in-the-role-of-women/" rel="nofollow">http://oneinjesus.info/index-under-construction/t...</a>. The series has the advantage of being a little more recent and each post has extensive comments where the readers ask questions and I and others respond. May God bless you in his work among our sisters in Uganda. Readers, Mrs. Bisangwa is the founder of Rhema Ministries in Uganda, a non-denominational, Christian ministry supporting women in that nation. <a href="http://rhemaministriesltd.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=81%3Afew-words-from-the-founder&Itemid=1" rel="nofollow">http://rhemaministriesltd.org/index.php?option=co...</a>. Beat,

It's an honor to have you as a reader. I've covered this material both as an ebook and a series of blog posts. The ebook, "Buried Talents" is posted at http://oneinjesus.info/books-by-jay-guin/buried-t…. The series, which is very nearly the same material, is indexed at http://oneinjesus.info/index-under-construction/t…. The series has the advantage of being a little more recent and each post has extensive comments where the readers ask questions and I and others respond.

May God bless you in his work among our sisters in Uganda.

Readers,

Mrs. Bisangwa is the founder of Rhema Ministries in Uganda, a non-denominational, Christian ministry supporting women in that nation. http://rhemaministriesltd.org/index.php?option=co….

]]> By: Jay Guin http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2319 Jay Guin Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:18:38 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2319 Elspeth, I'm glad this was helpful for you. The entire series is available at http://oneinjesus.info/index-under-construction/buried-talents-studies-in-the-role-of-women/ Elspeth,

I’m glad this was helpful for you. The entire series is available at http://oneinjesus.info/index-under-construction/buried-talents-studies-in-the-role-of-women/

]]> By: Elspeth Titus http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2318 Elspeth Titus Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:46:25 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2318 This is LIBERATING!! Thank you. South Africa This is LIBERATING!! Thank you.

South Africa

]]> By: Alan http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2317 Alan Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:18:21 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2317 It sounds like we're on the same page on this. So I guess the main thing you are objecting to is what you've described as paternalism -- the view that women are somehow inferior. That's a narrower objection than I had thought. And I also strongly object to that notion. It sounds like we're on the same page on this. So I guess the main thing you are objecting to is what you've described as paternalism — the view that women are somehow inferior. That's a narrower objection than I had thought. And I also strongly object to that notion.

]]> By: Jay Guin http://oneinjesus.info/2008/04/buried-talents-genesis-part-2-the-meaning-of-helper/#comment-2316 Jay Guin Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:04:25 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/?p=1045#comment-2316 Alan, I agree. Wives must be true to their purpose given them in God's creation. This is the essence, I think, of Paul's point regarding the order of creation: wives may not do things that violate their purpose as suitable complements. Alan,

I agree. Wives must be true to their purpose given them in God's creation. This is the essence, I think, of Paul's point regarding the order of creation: wives may not do things that violate their purpose as suitable complements.

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