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		<title>By: D.Samuelraj</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear brethren, 
Greetings. Kindly visit India to plant your work. 
God bless 
d.samuelraj </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear brethren,<br />
Greetings. Kindly visit India to plant your work.<br />
God bless<br />
d.samuelraj</p>
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		<title>By: Church Plants and Missions: Putting a Congregational Vision Together, Part 1 &#171; One In Jesus.info</title>
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		<dc:creator>Church Plants and Missions: Putting a Congregational Vision Together, Part 1 &#171; One In Jesus.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heavily toward long-term missions &#8212; even if it makes the teen minister unhappy. You see, the research shows that short-term missions accomplish much less good than long-term missions. They don&#8217;t even really build support for long-term [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] heavily toward long-term missions &#8212; even if it makes the teen minister unhappy. You see, the research shows that short-term missions accomplish much less good than long-term missions. They don&#8217;t even really build support for long-term [...]</p>
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		<title>By: greg hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, 
Thanks for the blogs and the opportunity to reply. 
Overall I think that it is apercentage game. Short term missions have been around a long time, the new interest and explosion is a recent developement. I am glad to see more insight and interest regarding viability. 
But back to percentages. &quot; You don&#039;t know until you go. &quot; 
If people don&#039;t attend short term missions then it is difficult to convince them of the need. To see poverty, hunger, etc. first hand touches you in a way that words and photos cannot. 
As is the case with most things there is only a small percentage of people that will open their heart to the experieance and want to continue to contribute and even want to lead another short term mission. It is this percentage that ends up being of most value to the process. I think that is just human nature. So yes perhaps the monies invested in short term missions could be better spent on long term mission values. But in order to get peopel to contribute in a meaningful way they must experience the need first hand. It then becomes the responsibility of leaders to channel the monies and efforts of short term missions into a long term goal. 
Perhaps we are near that point now with the explosion of short term volunteers and missions that have gone wrong or not fulfilled the intended purpose and perhaps we are nearing the point where leaders can also become instructors to impart the values and goals and explain the consequences of actions for short term missions  in a real sense explaining both positive and negative aspects of the behaivors of short term mission volunteers. 
Most benefit of missions seems to be in the end seems to be that of building relationships and trust. 
That is a two way street. We should be aware of what it really is that the communities we serve are in need of and how best we can help them or serve them. We can also become aware of how they can serve and teach us. This does not happen overnite, but the seeds may be best planted on short term missions 
Thanks, Greg </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
Thanks for the blogs and the opportunity to reply.<br />
Overall I think that it is apercentage game. Short term missions have been around a long time, the new interest and explosion is a recent developement. I am glad to see more insight and interest regarding viability.<br />
But back to percentages. &quot; You don&#039;t know until you go. &quot;<br />
If people don&#039;t attend short term missions then it is difficult to convince them of the need. To see poverty, hunger, etc. first hand touches you in a way that words and photos cannot.<br />
As is the case with most things there is only a small percentage of people that will open their heart to the experieance and want to continue to contribute and even want to lead another short term mission. It is this percentage that ends up being of most value to the process. I think that is just human nature. So yes perhaps the monies invested in short term missions could be better spent on long term mission values. But in order to get peopel to contribute in a meaningful way they must experience the need first hand. It then becomes the responsibility of leaders to channel the monies and efforts of short term missions into a long term goal.<br />
Perhaps we are near that point now with the explosion of short term volunteers and missions that have gone wrong or not fulfilled the intended purpose and perhaps we are nearing the point where leaders can also become instructors to impart the values and goals and explain the consequences of actions for short term missions  in a real sense explaining both positive and negative aspects of the behaivors of short term mission volunteers.<br />
Most benefit of missions seems to be in the end seems to be that of building relationships and trust.<br />
That is a two way street. We should be aware of what it really is that the communities we serve are in need of and how best we can help them or serve them. We can also become aware of how they can serve and teach us. This does not happen overnite, but the seeds may be best planted on short term missions<br />
Thanks, Greg</p>
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		<title>By: The Kitchen of Half-Baked Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Missions: Getting short-changed</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Kitchen of Half-Baked Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Missions: Getting short-changed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] them judiciously and be realistic about the results we expect.(Some of my thinking was inspired by this post by Jay Guin)  October 6th, 2008 in Missions &#124; tags: Missions       Search [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] them judiciously and be realistic about the results we expect.(Some of my thinking was inspired by this post by Jay Guin)  October 6th, 2008 in Missions | tags: Missions       Search [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Guin</title>
		<link>http://oneinjesus.info/2008/07/managing-missions-are-short-term-missions-a-good-investment/#comment-3303</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Guin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, 
 
I think I misjudged you, you know. But you have to understand my suspicion of anyone who (a) gets published in the Gospel Advocate and Firm Foundation and (b) is a Tennessee Vols football fan. 
 
You seem to be otherwise remarkably intelligent and thoughtful. But anyone who writes, 
 
&quot;Here is the prediction. Here is the future. Tennessee will beat Alabama today.&quot; 
 
is no prophet. (See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvoBDKrA8yM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvoBDKrA8yM&lt;/a&gt; for reality) 
 
Readers, 
 
Matthew&#039;s blog is actually pretty good (for a Tennessee fan, you know). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, </p>
<p>I think I misjudged you, you know. But you have to understand my suspicion of anyone who (a) gets published in the Gospel Advocate and Firm Foundation and (b) is a Tennessee Vols football fan. </p>
<p>You seem to be otherwise remarkably intelligent and thoughtful. But anyone who writes, </p>
<p>&quot;Here is the prediction. Here is the future. Tennessee will beat Alabama today.&quot; </p>
<p>is no prophet. (See <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvoBDKrA8yM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvoBDKrA8yM</a> for reality) </p>
<p>Readers, </p>
<p>Matthew&#039;s blog is actually pretty good (for a Tennessee fan, you know).</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Guin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Guin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, 
 
If these trips are not effective for those we seek to serve, but are effective for those doing the serving, it would seem that we should do no more than is necessary for the edification of our children. 
 
For example, if our kids can receive similar edification close to home, leaving money available to do real mission work, we should do that. 
 
Or if we can get the same benefit sending the same kids but fewer times, we should do that. 
 
Or if we can get the same benefit waiting until the kids are older. For example, in my church, the college group does an annual mission trip for which they spend months in training. Not only do they gain many converts for Jesus, many of those kids have gone into full-time mission work. Now, that works at every level -- it&#039;s the best kind of short-term mission there can be. 
 
But teenagers have never done genuine mission work. Their trips are service projects. Now, my kids have all gone on these trips and they&#039;ve benefited from them. They&#039;ve seen  poverty far beyond anything that exists in the US, which has been good for them. But I don&#039;t know that they have to go on the same trip 4 times apiece to get that benefit. 
 
My own preference would be that for every foreign or even out-of-town service project they do, they do 3 or 4 projects right here in Tuscaloosa. I mean, as valuable as it is to see how people live in foreign lands, it would be even better to see how some people live 3 miles away. 
 
And I worry about the implied message that to do good we have to leave town, even the country. 
 
And wouldn&#039;t it make a huge impact on racial and economic division in this community if churches raised their children to serve the poor in their own community? 
 
Now, it&#039;s not strictly either-or. You can do both. I just think we have things far too heavily weighted toward exotic trips far away and not nearly enough toward our neighbors here in town. 
 
But that&#039;s just me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, </p>
<p>If these trips are not effective for those we seek to serve, but are effective for those doing the serving, it would seem that we should do no more than is necessary for the edification of our children. </p>
<p>For example, if our kids can receive similar edification close to home, leaving money available to do real mission work, we should do that. </p>
<p>Or if we can get the same benefit sending the same kids but fewer times, we should do that. </p>
<p>Or if we can get the same benefit waiting until the kids are older. For example, in my church, the college group does an annual mission trip for which they spend months in training. Not only do they gain many converts for Jesus, many of those kids have gone into full-time mission work. Now, that works at every level &#8212; it&#039;s the best kind of short-term mission there can be. </p>
<p>But teenagers have never done genuine mission work. Their trips are service projects. Now, my kids have all gone on these trips and they&#039;ve benefited from them. They&#039;ve seen  poverty far beyond anything that exists in the US, which has been good for them. But I don&#039;t know that they have to go on the same trip 4 times apiece to get that benefit. </p>
<p>My own preference would be that for every foreign or even out-of-town service project they do, they do 3 or 4 projects right here in Tuscaloosa. I mean, as valuable as it is to see how people live in foreign lands, it would be even better to see how some people live 3 miles away. </p>
<p>And I worry about the implied message that to do good we have to leave town, even the country. </p>
<p>And wouldn&#039;t it make a huge impact on racial and economic division in this community if churches raised their children to serve the poor in their own community? </p>
<p>Now, it&#039;s not strictly either-or. You can do both. I just think we have things far too heavily weighted toward exotic trips far away and not nearly enough toward our neighbors here in town. </p>
<p>But that&#039;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Baggett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Baggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too beleive that for youth it is great chance to get out of their little world and see that things are bigger than the little town they live in.  I know it was exactly that for me. 
If you measure it by the methods we use to like baptims, restorations, members etecetera then I don&#039;t think they are very effective. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too beleive that for youth it is great chance to get out of their little world and see that things are bigger than the little town they live in.  I know it was exactly that for me.<br />
If you measure it by the methods we use to like baptims, restorations, members etecetera then I don&#039;t think they are very effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some times these short trips are a waste, but as for young people I believe it is a time of spiritual development which ends up helping the teen going more than the people he or she is working with. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.matthewsblog.waynesborochurchofchrist.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.matthewsblog.waynesborochurchofchrist.org&lt;/a&gt; 
 
P.S. I really like your blog, even though you wrote me up once. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some times these short trips are a waste, but as for young people I believe it is a time of spiritual development which ends up helping the teen going more than the people he or she is working with.<br />
  <a href="http://www.matthewsblog.waynesborochurchofchrist.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.matthewsblog.waynesborochurchofchrist.org</a> </p>
<p>P.S. I really like your blog, even though you wrote me up once.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Archer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Archer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been truly frustrated for a long time by what has happened to &quot;mission trips&quot; in our brotherhood. It&#039;s all about service projects, most of them in a total disconnect with anything evangelistic. If we are going to start calling everything &quot;missions&quot; (which I have heard proposed), we need to find a new term for evangelistic efforts... and new ways to expose our kids to those. 
 
It&#039;s my fear that our culture has influenced us by (1) making us focus on material things rather than spiritual; and (2) making us unwilling to share what we believe with others. 
 
&quot;Lifestyle evangelism&quot; only works when accompanied by teaching (Samuel Shoemaker&#039;s great &lt;i&gt;Extraordinary Living for Ordinary Men&lt;/i&gt; still expresses it better than most). We need to teach our people service and evangelism, not one or the other. 
 
Back on the specific topic, the best short-term tool I&#039;ve seen is Let&#039;s Start Talking. Speaking as a former missionary who received such groups, I can say that they truly had a lasting impact. 
 
Grace and peace, 
Tim </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been truly frustrated for a long time by what has happened to &quot;mission trips&quot; in our brotherhood. It&#039;s all about service projects, most of them in a total disconnect with anything evangelistic. If we are going to start calling everything &quot;missions&quot; (which I have heard proposed), we need to find a new term for evangelistic efforts&#8230; and new ways to expose our kids to those. </p>
<p>It&#039;s my fear that our culture has influenced us by (1) making us focus on material things rather than spiritual; and (2) making us unwilling to share what we believe with others. </p>
<p>&quot;Lifestyle evangelism&quot; only works when accompanied by teaching (Samuel Shoemaker&#039;s great <i>Extraordinary Living for Ordinary Men</i> still expresses it better than most). We need to teach our people service and evangelism, not one or the other. </p>
<p>Back on the specific topic, the best short-term tool I&#039;ve seen is Let&#039;s Start Talking. Speaking as a former missionary who received such groups, I can say that they truly had a lasting impact. </p>
<p>Grace and peace,<br />
Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Guin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Guin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear reader, 
 
That&#039;s the key question. Is it worth, in the example, 9 houses to gain that experience? 
 
The Christianity Today articles researched that very question, taking polls to determine if people who, as teens, had gone on short term mission trips were more supportive of foreign missions than those who had not. 
 
The answer is those who&#039;d been on trips were more inclined to indicate support for missions on the form. But the the number who actually gave to missions was the same for those who&#039;d gone and those who hadn&#039;t. 
 
Therefore, from a financial standpoint, people do not give more because they&#039;ve been on short-term missions. Which means, as these teens get older, they won&#039;t give more money, which means the 9 houses won&#039;t get built. 
 
Now, I readily admit that giving to missions is not the only benefit that might be realized from short-term missions, but it is disappointing to learn that the trips don&#039;t build a better financial base for missions. 
 
My only point is that we should evaluate these things realistically, with the best information available. And while I don&#039;t think the research means we stop all short-term missions, I do think it should affect which short-term missions we do. 
 
For example, if we are looking for faith building, rather than foreign mission support building, we can often do that in our home towns, which would also build our communities and build our congregation&#039;s reputation among the poor and social service agencies locally. I mean, I just see so many opportunities to serve Jesus in our home towns that we miss in order to travel across the world. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear reader, </p>
<p>That&#039;s the key question. Is it worth, in the example, 9 houses to gain that experience? </p>
<p>The Christianity Today articles researched that very question, taking polls to determine if people who, as teens, had gone on short term mission trips were more supportive of foreign missions than those who had not. </p>
<p>The answer is those who&#039;d been on trips were more inclined to indicate support for missions on the form. But the the number who actually gave to missions was the same for those who&#039;d gone and those who hadn&#039;t. </p>
<p>Therefore, from a financial standpoint, people do not give more because they&#039;ve been on short-term missions. Which means, as these teens get older, they won&#039;t give more money, which means the 9 houses won&#039;t get built. </p>
<p>Now, I readily admit that giving to missions is not the only benefit that might be realized from short-term missions, but it is disappointing to learn that the trips don&#039;t build a better financial base for missions. </p>
<p>My only point is that we should evaluate these things realistically, with the best information available. And while I don&#039;t think the research means we stop all short-term missions, I do think it should affect which short-term missions we do. </p>
<p>For example, if we are looking for faith building, rather than foreign mission support building, we can often do that in our home towns, which would also build our communities and build our congregation&#039;s reputation among the poor and social service agencies locally. I mean, I just see so many opportunities to serve Jesus in our home towns that we miss in order to travel across the world.</p>
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