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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath
in &lt;b&gt;every city them that preach him, &lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. &lt;/b&gt;

DID NOT NEVER EVER ATTEND TEMPLE EXORCISM.

This was to explain why the Gentiles in much of the world understood the Old Testament.  The Qahal, synagogue or Church in the Wilderness commanded REST, reading and rehearsing the Word. It EXCLUDED vocal or instrumental rejoicing. Little simple simon knew not to make a fool of himself when they met for SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE.

The synagogue also QUARANTED the NARROW WAY from the Temple where people PROFANED the Sabbath because they had been abandoned.  Means &lt;b&gt;play the flute, steal people&#039;s money, prostitute and pollute the Sabbath.&lt;/b&gt; They PROFANED the Sabbath at Mount Sinai BUT sabbath means REST FROM ritual.

NUMBER TWO:  MAKE KEN LOOK FOOLISH :-)

Laded burden and self-pleasure OUTLAWS the performing artists during synagogue or school of Bible.  I believe that Albert Barnes said &quot;let them go off and play with themselves.&quot;  DISCIPLES are STUDENTS and not ceremonial legalists.

&quot;In &lt;b&gt;Gnostic circles&lt;/b&gt; religious poetry arose to compete with the Old Testament Psalms. Some Catholics therefore distrusted the composition of hymns after this pattern, on the ground that they might smack of heresy. Yet from at least the second century hymns were written by the orthodox which, like their Gnostic counterparts, employed the forms of Greek poetry...

Until near the end of the fourth century, in the services of the Catholic Church
only the Old Testament Psalms and
the hymns or canticles from the New Testament were sung:
&lt;b&gt;the other hymns were for personal family, or private use.&lt;/b&gt;

Gradually there were prepared versical paraphrases of the Psalms, hymnswith lines of equal length, and hymns which were acrostic.&quot; (Latourette, Christianity. p. 207).

To Ephraim pertains the high and unique distinction of having originated-or at least given its living impulse to &lt;b&gt;a new departure in sacred literature&lt;/b&gt;; and that, not for his own country merely, but for Christendom.

&lt;b&gt;From him came, if not the first idea, at all events the first successful example, of making song an essential constituent of public worship,
and an exponent of theological teaching;&lt;/b&gt;

and from him it spread and prevailed through the Eastern Churches, and affected even those of the West.
To the Hymns, on which chiefly his fame rests, the Syriac ritual in all its forms owes much of its strength and richness; and to them is largely due the place which Hymnody holds throughout the Church everywhere.

To his credit Ephraeml at least forced the people to LEARN something about the Bible rather than about the preacher and HIS dogma:&lt;b&gt;

http://www.piney.com/EphraimHymns.html&lt;/b&gt;

Those who laugh now will mourn later.

Jesus STOOD UP to read the word and DECENTLY sat dow to wait for dialog. The pulpit held up the BIBLE and not a PREACHER in the true synagogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath<br />
in <b>every city them that preach him, </b><br />
<b>being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. </b></p>
<p>DID NOT NEVER EVER ATTEND TEMPLE EXORCISM.</p>
<p>This was to explain why the Gentiles in much of the world understood the Old Testament.  The Qahal, synagogue or Church in the Wilderness commanded REST, reading and rehearsing the Word. It EXCLUDED vocal or instrumental rejoicing. Little simple simon knew not to make a fool of himself when they met for SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE.</p>
<p>The synagogue also QUARANTED the NARROW WAY from the Temple where people PROFANED the Sabbath because they had been abandoned.  Means <b>play the flute, steal people&#8217;s money, prostitute and pollute the Sabbath.</b> They PROFANED the Sabbath at Mount Sinai BUT sabbath means REST FROM ritual.</p>
<p>NUMBER TWO:  MAKE KEN LOOK FOOLISH <img src='http://oneinjesus.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Laded burden and self-pleasure OUTLAWS the performing artists during synagogue or school of Bible.  I believe that Albert Barnes said &#8220;let them go off and play with themselves.&#8221;  DISCIPLES are STUDENTS and not ceremonial legalists.</p>
<p>&#8220;In <b>Gnostic circles</b> religious poetry arose to compete with the Old Testament Psalms. Some Catholics therefore distrusted the composition of hymns after this pattern, on the ground that they might smack of heresy. Yet from at least the second century hymns were written by the orthodox which, like their Gnostic counterparts, employed the forms of Greek poetry&#8230;</p>
<p>Until near the end of the fourth century, in the services of the Catholic Church<br />
only the Old Testament Psalms and<br />
the hymns or canticles from the New Testament were sung:<br />
<b>the other hymns were for personal family, or private use.</b></p>
<p>Gradually there were prepared versical paraphrases of the Psalms, hymnswith lines of equal length, and hymns which were acrostic.&#8221; (Latourette, Christianity. p. 207).</p>
<p>To Ephraim pertains the high and unique distinction of having originated-or at least given its living impulse to <b>a new departure in sacred literature</b>; and that, not for his own country merely, but for Christendom.</p>
<p><b>From him came, if not the first idea, at all events the first successful example, of making song an essential constituent of public worship,<br />
and an exponent of theological teaching;</b></p>
<p>and from him it spread and prevailed through the Eastern Churches, and affected even those of the West.<br />
To the Hymns, on which chiefly his fame rests, the Syriac ritual in all its forms owes much of its strength and richness; and to them is largely due the place which Hymnody holds throughout the Church everywhere.</p>
<p>To his credit Ephraeml at least forced the people to LEARN something about the Bible rather than about the preacher and HIS dogma:<b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.piney.com/EphraimHymns.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.piney.com/EphraimHymns.html</a></b></p>
<p>Those who laugh now will mourn later.</p>
<p>Jesus STOOD UP to read the word and DECENTLY sat dow to wait for dialog. The pulpit held up the BIBLE and not a PREACHER in the true synagogue.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://oneinjesus.info/2009/04/dialogue-with-robert-prater-the-teaching-of-christ/#comment-5506</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 04:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken
 &quot;This is the PLACE where PREACHING is READING the word: even if you could hallucinate SINGING the command would be to “sing that which is written.” and if you could hallucinate preaching to replace the elders the command would be to “teach that which has been taught.”

I just like to let some things stand out..... the meaning not important</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken<br />
 &#8220;This is the PLACE where PREACHING is READING the word: even if you could hallucinate SINGING the command would be to “sing that which is written.” and if you could hallucinate preaching to replace the elders the command would be to “teach that which has been taught.”</p>
<p>I just like to let some things stand out&#8230;.. the meaning not important</p>
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		<title>By: Bondservant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bondservant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Alan.</description>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://oneinjesus.info/2009/04/dialogue-with-robert-prater-the-teaching-of-christ/#comment-5504</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, if you could kindly get the CHALLENGERS to respond on the other thread I would be happy to move. However, this is an element of TRUTH since some have declared that MUSIC has been the most divisive and truth sucking influence in history. Assuredly Lucifer knew that he / she / it could bleed off worship due only to god by giving attention to HIS WORD.

I wont tamper with your blog since you don&#039;t want an contrarians but of your quote:

John 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.

Gerezim and Zion were PLACES so that the SPIRIT is a place where worship takes place. Paul&#039;s only worship word means to give heed to the Word or Spirit of truth.

Paul warned about the concision and dogs which were the cynics known by their &quot;old style praise singing&gt;

Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. Phil 3:2

For we are the circumcision, which worship God &lt;b&gt;in the spirit,&lt;/b&gt; and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence &lt;b&gt;in the flesh&lt;/b&gt;. Phil 3:3

This is the PLACE where PREACHING is READING the word: even if you could hallucinate SINGING the command would be to &quot;sing that which is written.&quot; and if you could hallucinate preaching to replace the elders the command would be to &quot;teach that which has been taught.&quot;

Now, what upsets you about quoting Scripture and word definitions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, if you could kindly get the CHALLENGERS to respond on the other thread I would be happy to move. However, this is an element of TRUTH since some have declared that MUSIC has been the most divisive and truth sucking influence in history. Assuredly Lucifer knew that he / she / it could bleed off worship due only to god by giving attention to HIS WORD.</p>
<p>I wont tamper with your blog since you don&#8217;t want an contrarians but of your quote:</p>
<p>John 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.</p>
<p>Gerezim and Zion were PLACES so that the SPIRIT is a place where worship takes place. Paul&#8217;s only worship word means to give heed to the Word or Spirit of truth.</p>
<p>Paul warned about the concision and dogs which were the cynics known by their &#8220;old style praise singing&gt;</p>
<p>Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. Phil 3:2</p>
<p>For we are the circumcision, which worship God <b>in the spirit,</b> and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence <b>in the flesh</b>. Phil 3:3</p>
<p>This is the PLACE where PREACHING is READING the word: even if you could hallucinate SINGING the command would be to &#8220;sing that which is written.&#8221; and if you could hallucinate preaching to replace the elders the command would be to &#8220;teach that which has been taught.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, what upsets you about quoting Scripture and word definitions?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told you that I would go through these one by one as long as I am tolerated.  The LAW OF SILENCE was invented by the Disciples along with RATIONALISM from Locke and TRADITIONALISM as ways to define INSPIRATION.  No literate person would ever say that GOD WAS SILENT.  However, the Bible is filled with proofs and all church fathers and founders of denominations agreed that the BIBLE is authority for DOING: silence has to be invented by the human imagination which God says is &quot;only evil continually.&quot;

Is. 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, &lt;b&gt;it is because there is no light in them. &lt;/b&gt;

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, &lt;b&gt;he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. &lt;/b&gt;

You might click here to see where the BIBLE and all historic scholars say what YOUR preachers say is NEVER IN THE BIBLE. They get paid to convince you that THEY have the authority to REGULATE your faith and children&#039;s education fund. I am a giver and never a taker.&lt;b&gt;

http://www.piney.comComExamInfer.html

&lt;/b&gt;Be patient, I will cover them all but the Bible and the Book of Enoch and three dozen similar ancient accountgs says that once you have fallen for the MUSIC MEANS SPIRITUAL WORSHIP you have fallen and you will never be able to confess the whole Bible which you have to TRUMP to get all of your pleasure centers (all) stroked on Circe.

&lt;b&gt;Some cofC denominations declare music in worship is a sin. I don’t believe God ever declared that in the Bible.&lt;/b&gt;

A denomination is an organized institute which regulates (more or less) what is taught, sends out Sunday School Literature, trains preachers, places them into churches, collects fees.  While movements like Jubilee tried mightily to become a Willow Creek Corporation, there is no headquarters and therefore the church of Christ is not a denomination.  The church at the NE corner of Wide and Broad has no control over the one at the SW corner of Wide and Broad.

On the contrary, in 1906 the Disciples was a denomination to which the Christian churches belonged: there was never any JOINING or unity between what became the Disciples/Christian church and what became the Church of Christ.  The NACC became a sectarian split from the Disciples beginning in about 1927 and ending in 1971. At about that time the Stone-Campbell falsehood began to try to SEDUCE churches of Christ into UNITY which meant PLAY THEM INSTRUMENTS.  They have a name, telephone number, address, tax exempt number, organize &quot;steal the ANTI-instrementalists churches&quot; and have fueled all of the WHITE PAPERS and supplied HANDLERS to help preachers who say that the &quot;Holy Spirit told him to sow discord and add instruments.

I believe that God declared it as a sin from Genesis to Revelation because music was known by Nimrod at the towers of Babylon as the way to use a &quot;musical team&quot; and fool the people that &quot;morals could be regenerated by external means.&quot;  The word EVE (ZOE) has more hidden than most will ever know because for the clergy &quot;truth has been hidden in parables from the foundation of the world.&quot; In Isaah 48 that was to fool the &quot;make self a prophet&quot; to whom Jesus pointed to as musical hypocrites.  The Bible identifies Lucifer as a singing and harp playing prostitute in the Garden of Eden. The Bible DOETH NOT SAY, &quot;thou shalt not be a singing and harp playing prostitute.&quot;  The same Mother of Babylonian harlots is identified in Revelation 17 and in Revelation 18 she uses &quot;lusted after fruits&quot; which has the same meaning as the &quot;basket of SUMMER FRUITS&quot; in Amos.   The singers, musicians (Apollyon&#039;s musical team), instrument players and CRAFTSMEN are identified by John as being SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world.  The Bible does not say that &quot;thou shalt not be a sorcerer&quot; but you plays the game and takes your chances.

The Greek literature spells out the SEEKER SENTER of Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon) whoh has MUSES (dirty adulteresses) as his musical worship team.  He used the PYTHIA as his oracle. Remember what Paul did to a young girl with a PYTHIAN SPIRIT.  The Bible doeth not say, thou shalt not be INDWELLED by the spirit OF the Serpent.

In the Bible the instrument is ALWAYS identified with Satan as the SOURCE when he/she was CAST AS PROFANE out of heaven (a word meaning blow the flute, steal people&#039;s inheritance, pollute and prostitute.&quot; The same as David&#039; PRAISE word and the root of the word LUCIFER.

Lying Wonders point to all of the sight, sound, smell and motion used now and called Instrumental Praise. No one could miss it unless they had dabbled with God&#039;s word and been DELUSIONED to make them happy along with all who could be led.

I can post Bible all day long and you will have to TRUMP it and call God a liar. That is OKEY-DOKEY in this post modern world which makes theologians a laughingstock like the musical idolaters of a trinity at Mount Sinai.

Right now, I need a nap.

Another of those North Alabama exiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told you that I would go through these one by one as long as I am tolerated.  The LAW OF SILENCE was invented by the Disciples along with RATIONALISM from Locke and TRADITIONALISM as ways to define INSPIRATION.  No literate person would ever say that GOD WAS SILENT.  However, the Bible is filled with proofs and all church fathers and founders of denominations agreed that the BIBLE is authority for DOING: silence has to be invented by the human imagination which God says is &#8220;only evil continually.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is. 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, <b>it is because there is no light in them. </b></p>
<p>John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, <b>he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. </b></p>
<p>You might click here to see where the BIBLE and all historic scholars say what YOUR preachers say is NEVER IN THE BIBLE. They get paid to convince you that THEY have the authority to REGULATE your faith and children&#8217;s education fund. I am a giver and never a taker.<b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.piney.comComExamInfer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.piney.comComExamInfer.html</a></p>
<p></b>Be patient, I will cover them all but the Bible and the Book of Enoch and three dozen similar ancient accountgs says that once you have fallen for the MUSIC MEANS SPIRITUAL WORSHIP you have fallen and you will never be able to confess the whole Bible which you have to TRUMP to get all of your pleasure centers (all) stroked on Circe.</p>
<p><b>Some cofC denominations declare music in worship is a sin. I don’t believe God ever declared that in the Bible.</b></p>
<p>A denomination is an organized institute which regulates (more or less) what is taught, sends out Sunday School Literature, trains preachers, places them into churches, collects fees.  While movements like Jubilee tried mightily to become a Willow Creek Corporation, there is no headquarters and therefore the church of Christ is not a denomination.  The church at the NE corner of Wide and Broad has no control over the one at the SW corner of Wide and Broad.</p>
<p>On the contrary, in 1906 the Disciples was a denomination to which the Christian churches belonged: there was never any JOINING or unity between what became the Disciples/Christian church and what became the Church of Christ.  The NACC became a sectarian split from the Disciples beginning in about 1927 and ending in 1971. At about that time the Stone-Campbell falsehood began to try to SEDUCE churches of Christ into UNITY which meant PLAY THEM INSTRUMENTS.  They have a name, telephone number, address, tax exempt number, organize &#8220;steal the ANTI-instrementalists churches&#8221; and have fueled all of the WHITE PAPERS and supplied HANDLERS to help preachers who say that the &#8220;Holy Spirit told him to sow discord and add instruments.</p>
<p>I believe that God declared it as a sin from Genesis to Revelation because music was known by Nimrod at the towers of Babylon as the way to use a &#8220;musical team&#8221; and fool the people that &#8220;morals could be regenerated by external means.&#8221;  The word EVE (ZOE) has more hidden than most will ever know because for the clergy &#8220;truth has been hidden in parables from the foundation of the world.&#8221; In Isaah 48 that was to fool the &#8220;make self a prophet&#8221; to whom Jesus pointed to as musical hypocrites.  The Bible identifies Lucifer as a singing and harp playing prostitute in the Garden of Eden. The Bible DOETH NOT SAY, &#8220;thou shalt not be a singing and harp playing prostitute.&#8221;  The same Mother of Babylonian harlots is identified in Revelation 17 and in Revelation 18 she uses &#8220;lusted after fruits&#8221; which has the same meaning as the &#8220;basket of SUMMER FRUITS&#8221; in Amos.   The singers, musicians (Apollyon&#8217;s musical team), instrument players and CRAFTSMEN are identified by John as being SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world.  The Bible does not say that &#8220;thou shalt not be a sorcerer&#8221; but you plays the game and takes your chances.</p>
<p>The Greek literature spells out the SEEKER SENTER of Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon) whoh has MUSES (dirty adulteresses) as his musical worship team.  He used the PYTHIA as his oracle. Remember what Paul did to a young girl with a PYTHIAN SPIRIT.  The Bible doeth not say, thou shalt not be INDWELLED by the spirit OF the Serpent.</p>
<p>In the Bible the instrument is ALWAYS identified with Satan as the SOURCE when he/she was CAST AS PROFANE out of heaven (a word meaning blow the flute, steal people&#8217;s inheritance, pollute and prostitute.&#8221; The same as David&#8217; PRAISE word and the root of the word LUCIFER.</p>
<p>Lying Wonders point to all of the sight, sound, smell and motion used now and called Instrumental Praise. No one could miss it unless they had dabbled with God&#8217;s word and been DELUSIONED to make them happy along with all who could be led.</p>
<p>I can post Bible all day long and you will have to TRUMP it and call God a liar. That is OKEY-DOKEY in this post modern world which makes theologians a laughingstock like the musical idolaters of a trinity at Mount Sinai.</p>
<p>Right now, I need a nap.</p>
<p>Another of those North Alabama exiles.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, seriously, you should get your own blog.   It&#039;s not really considerate to fill other people&#039;s blogs up with the kind of things you&#039;re saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, seriously, you should get your own blog.   It&#8217;s not really considerate to fill other people&#8217;s blogs up with the kind of things you&#8217;re saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Bondservant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bondservant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, Try to come out of this rampage your in and please answer these questions.

Where does the Bible say “be silent where the Bible is silent”, please provide BCV.

Where does God say “music in worship is a sin”, please provide BCV.

Is the Bible silent on the following issues? song leaders, song books, choirs, paid preachers, shoes worn on holy ground, sitting and standing in unison during a service while worshiping singing a song, indoor baptisms, singing songs written by members of different denominations, youth ministers, church secretaries, fellowship halls, and church buildings?

Are we to pray with our hands lifted up, are we to pray with our hands folded, are we to pray with our eyes shut, are we to pray with our eyes open?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, Try to come out of this rampage your in and please answer these questions.</p>
<p>Where does the Bible say “be silent where the Bible is silent”, please provide BCV.</p>
<p>Where does God say “music in worship is a sin”, please provide BCV.</p>
<p>Is the Bible silent on the following issues? song leaders, song books, choirs, paid preachers, shoes worn on holy ground, sitting and standing in unison during a service while worshiping singing a song, indoor baptisms, singing songs written by members of different denominations, youth ministers, church secretaries, fellowship halls, and church buildings?</p>
<p>Are we to pray with our hands lifted up, are we to pray with our hands folded, are we to pray with our eyes shut, are we to pray with our eyes open?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, if words have any meaning, you may be Word starved (Amos, Isaiah) because church (Circe, Kirke) is not a school of the Word, BUT devoted to satisfying the human appetites: the religious festivals in Amos and Isaiah was what CAUSED the people to not be able to know the Word, they died spiritually and were taken into captivity and death. That was the sentence imposed at Mount Sinia BECAUSE of musical idolatry.

Those starving you to death also use the isolated text which always condemn what they are doing because they do not know the story line. Who would dishonor a human by refusing to grasp the story line and totally ignoring the First Chapter (the Evil Thread).

The Old Testament speaks of the TWO THREADS: one was the Spiritual thread commanded to attend the Church of Christ in the Wilderness (Christ in Spirit ordained it). It was inclusive of REST (from worship), reading and rehearsing or discussing the Word. It was exclusive of vocal or instrumental rejoicing. This is the ALARM which Judas would try on Jesus: the Judas bag was &quot;for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments.

The SECULAR thread was the NOBILITY of civil, military and clergy: God abandoned THEM to worship the starry host and kings were chosen to carry out the captivity and death sentence imposed at Mount Sinai.  Christ speaking through the prophets calls that a SHADOW or an evil system and a COVENANT WITH DEATH.  Amos describes the Marzeah (Greek Agapae) which was a muisical festival WITH and FOR dead ancestors. The PROPHETS identify this CIVIL group as robbers and parasites.

So, ttwo are there two threads identified by Christ.  Jesus identified the Temple as a house of prayer or rather a HOUSE toward which people could pray because the SPIRITUAL THREAD could not enter into the HOUSE.  No speaker, singer or instrument player who went into the Holy Place as a secular type of the body of Christ would be executed.  From the beginning the LEVITES which derive from the old Egyptian Dionysus worship could not COME NEAR any holy thing.

Jesus CAST OUT the musical minstrels using a word often used to mean LIKE DUNG because to say flute-girl or minstrel was to say prostitute.  Flute girls and the dung heap were regulated by the same official in Athens.

Jesus turned over the collection plates (called trumpets): the table was defined as part of the Agora or Marketplace where the pagan sacrificial alters, singers, speakers, dancers, instrument players, public speakers, sellers of radishes and other things were CONFINED apart from the ekklesia which was a WORD ONLY meeting having a similar meaning of the synagogue.

Lk 15:25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard music and dancing

Rembember that Jesus said of the MEN of that generation that they were like CHILDREN which points to PLAYING instruments and PLAYING as at Mount Sinai which included musical idolatry of the Egyptian trinity, sexuality and perverted sexuality..

They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept. Lu.7:32

&lt;i&gt;Orcheomai (g3738) or-kheh&#039;-om-ahee; mid. from oårchoås , (a row or ring); to dance (from the ranklike or regular motion): - dance

orchêst-ra , hê, orcheomai

A. orchestra, i.e. &lt;b&gt;in the theatre the space on which the chorus danced,&lt;/b&gt; Arist.Pr.901b30, SIG577.31 (Milet., iii/ii B. C.), etc.: metaph., o. polemou Plu.2.193e .

2. &lt;b&gt;part of the agora at Athens&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;

JESUS IS CONTRASTED TO THE HUMAN PERSON WHOM THE HUNGRY WIDOW HAS TO IMPORTUNE.

This is in the SECULAR THREAD whereas the SPIRITUAL assembles or gathers where Paul used SYNAGOGUE words: &quot;there was never a praise service in the synagogue by direct command&quot; but there is nothing wrong with giving the WORD one hour a week where Moses was PREACHED by being READ, and leave to continue the SECULAR thread which would involve hard work, taking rest, playing or listening to instruments which produced a BEAT and not a TUNE concurrent with the SPEAKING: that would insult the song writer.

The word music is the Greek:

Sumphonia or MUSIC which primarily means a concord or unison of sound. Harmonous union of many voices of sound such as speaking. Metaphor of harmony or agreement.

The dancing which would attending weddings and happy FAMILY gatherings was:

Choros  II.choir, band of dancers and singers, h. Ven.118, Pi.N.5.23, Fr.199; sumphônia kai choroi

Generally this would be a row of dancers (like teeth) or a circle of dancers with hands joined spinning around.  Jesus identified the &lt;b&gt;MEN&lt;/b&gt; of that generation as &lt;b&gt;CHILDREN&lt;/b&gt; in the &lt;b&gt;marketplace &lt;/b&gt; (not the ekklesia) PIPING trying to force others to sing or lament and dance. Jesus would not join in a MARKETPLACE ritual.  The AGORA or marketplace in Athens includes &quot;a place for dancing.&quot; However, the ekklesia (like church) was up the hill and was &lt;b&gt;for verbal instruction only&lt;/b&gt;: just like the synagogue where &quot;vocal and instrumental rejoicing&quot; was excluded. So, there are two arenas in life and Jesus still pleads &quot;could you not wait with me for one hour?&quot; apparently the answer is no.

The word MUSIC almost DEMANDS dancing and that is why MUSIC had no connection to BIBLE CLASS TIME.

When sumphonia includes instrumental SOUNDS it must be named as the INSTRUMENT must be named in any singing or musical term in the Bible AND they always are.  NO simple simon would go up to another person and command them to &#039;PLUCK.&#039;  Psallo just means PLUCK and EXCLUDES a plectrum or guitar pick.  You cannot use psallo to strum a guitar, clang a cymbal, blow a flute or peck a piano.

Daniel 3 defines HOW a &lt;b&gt;BAND &lt;/b&gt; might be indicated.

Daniel 3. [7]  Therefore at that time, when all the peoples heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, [&lt;b&gt;sounding together&lt;/b&gt;] and all kinds of music, all the peoples, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshiped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. [8]  Therefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and brought accusation against the Jews. [9]  They answered Nebuchadnezzar the king, O king, live for ever. [10]  You, O king, have made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music, shall fall down and worship the golden image; [11]  and whoever doesn&#039;t fall down and worships, shall be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace .

So, if you use the prodigal then you must have a FATTED CALF, a ring of dancers spinning around to make themselves dizzy, and at the same time as the DANCING the SUMPHONIA.  That is like the trick of holding literal harps, holding bowlS of incense, falling on your face and PLAYING literal harps.

The modern Post-Christian churches BOAST about making themselves as much like the world as possible to WIN the world.  If you call all of your friends and stuff yourself with popcorn and beer why would you think that would mane a new PATTERNISM of AN ACT OF WORSHIP?

I will go through these one by one if you won&#039;t  ignore that church is A School of the Bible: using toilet tissue does not distract from being school of &quot;that which is written&quot; or &quot;teaching that which has been taught.&quot;  Music, by definition, shuts down your rational or spiritual hemisphere so that false teachers can make you believe that God was silent about instruments.  If I were Satan I would have all of the not-Biblical pulpits filled with MY ministers. Why listen to &quot;doctors of the Law&quot; who doctor the Word when Jesus said that &quot;they take away the key to knowledge.&quot; By quoting verses from a lexicon someone had taken away the key.

Ken.  Nothing Christian is for sale and nothing for sale is Christian. That is called corrupting the Word or &quot;selling learning at retail&quot; which is defined as adultery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, if words have any meaning, you may be Word starved (Amos, Isaiah) because church (Circe, Kirke) is not a school of the Word, BUT devoted to satisfying the human appetites: the religious festivals in Amos and Isaiah was what CAUSED the people to not be able to know the Word, they died spiritually and were taken into captivity and death. That was the sentence imposed at Mount Sinia BECAUSE of musical idolatry.</p>
<p>Those starving you to death also use the isolated text which always condemn what they are doing because they do not know the story line. Who would dishonor a human by refusing to grasp the story line and totally ignoring the First Chapter (the Evil Thread).</p>
<p>The Old Testament speaks of the TWO THREADS: one was the Spiritual thread commanded to attend the Church of Christ in the Wilderness (Christ in Spirit ordained it). It was inclusive of REST (from worship), reading and rehearsing or discussing the Word. It was exclusive of vocal or instrumental rejoicing. This is the ALARM which Judas would try on Jesus: the Judas bag was &#8220;for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments.</p>
<p>The SECULAR thread was the NOBILITY of civil, military and clergy: God abandoned THEM to worship the starry host and kings were chosen to carry out the captivity and death sentence imposed at Mount Sinai.  Christ speaking through the prophets calls that a SHADOW or an evil system and a COVENANT WITH DEATH.  Amos describes the Marzeah (Greek Agapae) which was a muisical festival WITH and FOR dead ancestors. The PROPHETS identify this CIVIL group as robbers and parasites.</p>
<p>So, ttwo are there two threads identified by Christ.  Jesus identified the Temple as a house of prayer or rather a HOUSE toward which people could pray because the SPIRITUAL THREAD could not enter into the HOUSE.  No speaker, singer or instrument player who went into the Holy Place as a secular type of the body of Christ would be executed.  From the beginning the LEVITES which derive from the old Egyptian Dionysus worship could not COME NEAR any holy thing.</p>
<p>Jesus CAST OUT the musical minstrels using a word often used to mean LIKE DUNG because to say flute-girl or minstrel was to say prostitute.  Flute girls and the dung heap were regulated by the same official in Athens.</p>
<p>Jesus turned over the collection plates (called trumpets): the table was defined as part of the Agora or Marketplace where the pagan sacrificial alters, singers, speakers, dancers, instrument players, public speakers, sellers of radishes and other things were CONFINED apart from the ekklesia which was a WORD ONLY meeting having a similar meaning of the synagogue.</p>
<p>Lk 15:25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard music and dancing</p>
<p>Rembember that Jesus said of the MEN of that generation that they were like CHILDREN which points to PLAYING instruments and PLAYING as at Mount Sinai which included musical idolatry of the Egyptian trinity, sexuality and perverted sexuality..</p>
<p>They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept. Lu.7:32</p>
<p><i>Orcheomai (g3738) or-kheh&#8217;-om-ahee; mid. from oårchoås , (a row or ring); to dance (from the ranklike or regular motion): &#8211; dance</p>
<p>orchêst-ra , hê, orcheomai</p>
<p>A. orchestra, i.e. <b>in the theatre the space on which the chorus danced,</b> Arist.Pr.901b30, SIG577.31 (Milet., iii/ii B. C.), etc.: metaph., o. polemou Plu.2.193e .</p>
<p>2. <b>part of the agora at Athens</b> </i></p>
<p>JESUS IS CONTRASTED TO THE HUMAN PERSON WHOM THE HUNGRY WIDOW HAS TO IMPORTUNE.</p>
<p>This is in the SECULAR THREAD whereas the SPIRITUAL assembles or gathers where Paul used SYNAGOGUE words: &#8220;there was never a praise service in the synagogue by direct command&#8221; but there is nothing wrong with giving the WORD one hour a week where Moses was PREACHED by being READ, and leave to continue the SECULAR thread which would involve hard work, taking rest, playing or listening to instruments which produced a BEAT and not a TUNE concurrent with the SPEAKING: that would insult the song writer.</p>
<p>The word music is the Greek:</p>
<p>Sumphonia or MUSIC which primarily means a concord or unison of sound. Harmonous union of many voices of sound such as speaking. Metaphor of harmony or agreement.</p>
<p>The dancing which would attending weddings and happy FAMILY gatherings was:</p>
<p>Choros  II.choir, band of dancers and singers, h. Ven.118, Pi.N.5.23, Fr.199; sumphônia kai choroi</p>
<p>Generally this would be a row of dancers (like teeth) or a circle of dancers with hands joined spinning around.  Jesus identified the <b>MEN</b> of that generation as <b>CHILDREN</b> in the <b>marketplace </b> (not the ekklesia) PIPING trying to force others to sing or lament and dance. Jesus would not join in a MARKETPLACE ritual.  The AGORA or marketplace in Athens includes &#8220;a place for dancing.&#8221; However, the ekklesia (like church) was up the hill and was <b>for verbal instruction only</b>: just like the synagogue where &#8220;vocal and instrumental rejoicing&#8221; was excluded. So, there are two arenas in life and Jesus still pleads &#8220;could you not wait with me for one hour?&#8221; apparently the answer is no.</p>
<p>The word MUSIC almost DEMANDS dancing and that is why MUSIC had no connection to BIBLE CLASS TIME.</p>
<p>When sumphonia includes instrumental SOUNDS it must be named as the INSTRUMENT must be named in any singing or musical term in the Bible AND they always are.  NO simple simon would go up to another person and command them to &#8216;PLUCK.&#8217;  Psallo just means PLUCK and EXCLUDES a plectrum or guitar pick.  You cannot use psallo to strum a guitar, clang a cymbal, blow a flute or peck a piano.</p>
<p>Daniel 3 defines HOW a <b>BAND </b> might be indicated.</p>
<p>Daniel 3. [7]  Therefore at that time, when all the peoples heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, [<b>sounding together</b>] and all kinds of music, all the peoples, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshiped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. [8]  Therefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and brought accusation against the Jews. [9]  They answered Nebuchadnezzar the king, O king, live for ever. [10]  You, O king, have made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music, shall fall down and worship the golden image; [11]  and whoever doesn&#8217;t fall down and worships, shall be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace .</p>
<p>So, if you use the prodigal then you must have a FATTED CALF, a ring of dancers spinning around to make themselves dizzy, and at the same time as the DANCING the SUMPHONIA.  That is like the trick of holding literal harps, holding bowlS of incense, falling on your face and PLAYING literal harps.</p>
<p>The modern Post-Christian churches BOAST about making themselves as much like the world as possible to WIN the world.  If you call all of your friends and stuff yourself with popcorn and beer why would you think that would mane a new PATTERNISM of AN ACT OF WORSHIP?</p>
<p>I will go through these one by one if you won&#8217;t  ignore that church is A School of the Bible: using toilet tissue does not distract from being school of &#8220;that which is written&#8221; or &#8220;teaching that which has been taught.&#8221;  Music, by definition, shuts down your rational or spiritual hemisphere so that false teachers can make you believe that God was silent about instruments.  If I were Satan I would have all of the not-Biblical pulpits filled with MY ministers. Why listen to &#8220;doctors of the Law&#8221; who doctor the Word when Jesus said that &#8220;they take away the key to knowledge.&#8221; By quoting verses from a lexicon someone had taken away the key.</p>
<p>Ken.  Nothing Christian is for sale and nothing for sale is Christian. That is called corrupting the Word or &#8220;selling learning at retail&#8221; which is defined as adultery.</p>
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		<title>By: Bondservant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bondservant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some cofC denominations declare music in worship is a sin. I don’t believe God ever declared that in the Bible.

Luke 15:11-32, Jesus tells this parable about a son who was once lost but returns to his father and is found. And what did Jesus say the brother heard, Jesus said the brother “heard music and dancing&quot; when the father was glad his son had returned home.

Luke 15:25, “And as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing.&quot;

1 Chronicles 16:7-36, David used the word sing a couple of times but he never mentions music here David being someone who we all know sang praises to God with music. So did David mean for them to sing “only” without music, or is that something one would assume in their own opinion.

1Chronicles 16:8-9, “Oh, give thanks to the LORD! Call upon His name; Make known His deeds among the peoples! Sing to Him, sing psalms to Him; Talk of all His wondrous works!&quot;

2 Chronicles 29:25, God commands instrumental music in the house of the LORD.

2 Chronicles 29:25, “And he stationed the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbols, with stringed instruments, and with harps, according to the commandment of David, of Gad the king’s seer, and of Nathan the prophet; for thus was the commandment of the LORD.&quot;

Revelation 14:1-5, There are the sounds of harpists playing their harps as they sang a new song. I don’t believe God would allow something sinful in heaven.

Revelation 14:2-3 “And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne.&quot;

Some coC denominations have added commands God never gave.

Where does the Bible say “be silent where the Bible is silent&quot;, please provide BCV.

Where does God say “music in worship is a sin&quot;, please provide BCV.

Is the Bible silent on the following issues? song leaders, song books, choirs, paid preachers, shoes worn on holy ground, sitting and standing in unison during a service while worshiping singing a song, indoor baptisms, singing songs written by members of different denominations, youth ministers, church secretaries, fellowship halls, and church buildings?
Are we to pray with our hands lifted up, are we to pray with our hands folded, are we to pray with our eyes shut, are we to pray with our eyes open?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some cofC denominations declare music in worship is a sin. I don’t believe God ever declared that in the Bible.</p>
<p>Luke 15:11-32, Jesus tells this parable about a son who was once lost but returns to his father and is found. And what did Jesus say the brother heard, Jesus said the brother “heard music and dancing&#8221; when the father was glad his son had returned home.</p>
<p>Luke 15:25, “And as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing.&#8221;</p>
<p>1 Chronicles 16:7-36, David used the word sing a couple of times but he never mentions music here David being someone who we all know sang praises to God with music. So did David mean for them to sing “only” without music, or is that something one would assume in their own opinion.</p>
<p>1Chronicles 16:8-9, “Oh, give thanks to the LORD! Call upon His name; Make known His deeds among the peoples! Sing to Him, sing psalms to Him; Talk of all His wondrous works!&#8221;</p>
<p>2 Chronicles 29:25, God commands instrumental music in the house of the LORD.</p>
<p>2 Chronicles 29:25, “And he stationed the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbols, with stringed instruments, and with harps, according to the commandment of David, of Gad the king’s seer, and of Nathan the prophet; for thus was the commandment of the LORD.&#8221;</p>
<p>Revelation 14:1-5, There are the sounds of harpists playing their harps as they sang a new song. I don’t believe God would allow something sinful in heaven.</p>
<p>Revelation 14:2-3 “And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some coC denominations have added commands God never gave.</p>
<p>Where does the Bible say “be silent where the Bible is silent&#8221;, please provide BCV.</p>
<p>Where does God say “music in worship is a sin&#8221;, please provide BCV.</p>
<p>Is the Bible silent on the following issues? song leaders, song books, choirs, paid preachers, shoes worn on holy ground, sitting and standing in unison during a service while worshiping singing a song, indoor baptisms, singing songs written by members of different denominations, youth ministers, church secretaries, fellowship halls, and church buildings?<br />
Are we to pray with our hands lifted up, are we to pray with our hands folded, are we to pray with our eyes shut, are we to pray with our eyes open?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted here because everyone played dumb on the instrument passages which are associated with Lucifer in the garden of Eden up to the speakers, singers and instrument players John called SORCERERS.

What I find &quot;spookey&quot; but gives me great comfort is that the modern spawn of scholars schooled with the goal of &quot;exercising PROPHETIC roles to be Chanellers and Facilitarors&quot; of making the NECESSARY changes which always boils down to the lust to have a singy-clappy group to watch making it IMPOSIBLE to even think about Jesus.

Why is that so well documented throughout Scripture and the modern doctors of the Law cannof find ANYTHING negative.  At the same time they cannot find any authority other than lifting parts of verses from among the CURSE of the monarchy, king, kingdom, temple.  At the same time the prophets speaking by Christ radically condemn the music and musicians and marks them as robbers and parasites.

My thesis is the you don&#039;t know anyone in the &quot;Nobility Circle&quot; who knows or cares about the story line.

I just wanted to get your attention and make sure you lawyers are not going to send me a threatening form letter if I tell you the TRUE, ugly history of the PSALLO word which you can NEVER find an any school of theology.

Why else would Paul use the word SPEAK which is what you do in synagogue or school of the Bibe? And why do all of the original documnents define SPEAK as the opposite of POETRY or MUSIC?

As the sinful woman at the well could grasp that &quot;when Messiah comes He will TELL us all things&quot; and readily grasp that worship in her HOUSE or the Jews HOUSE at a pagan high place John called Sodom was NOT POSSIBLE. The alternative is to worship in the PLACE of the human spirit giving heed to the Truth.  Find anything Paul called CHURCH which did not define SYNAGOGUE as what the Campbells restored as A SCHOOL OF CHRIST. And his WORSHIP words mean to &quot;give attention to the public reading of the Word and to define any doctrinal content and admonish everyone to obey what they learned.&quot;  The literal WORSHIP word you would never do which meant to fall on your face in holy reverence. SPIRITUAL worship is only that which takes place in the HUMAN spirit which becomes A holy spirit after baptism.

Is it SPOOKY to tell you that there is not a single MUSIC content in the SPIRITUAL or SYNAGOGUE thread and what God always calls NOISE while &quot;making the lambs dumbe before the slaughter&quot; was callled EXORCISM.  The SHADOW means that it was a totally erroneous system and A COVENANT WITH DEATH such as the Marzeah in Amos.

All of the rationalizing from specific Scriptures PROVES that those promoting instruments cannot read the Bible with understanding because theology as a fabricated arena with &quot;no certificate of need&quot; where theology in the Greek would demand that you SPEAK only that which came from your &quot;god.&quot;

I say that a band carefully NOT TAUGHT anything historically understood for several decades have their OWN SYSTEM OF THINKING which which would get you executed if you used the same rationale in teaching your child about handling rattlesnakes.

I have colleted MOST of the material and you cannot find a jot or tittile having God say &quot;I lust for that&quot; or one jot or tittle which does not connected it with destructive people.  The REAL world IS spooky because CULTURE makes it certain that most will never study TRUE HISTORY but only MYTHOLOGICAL mind control versions.

If I am spooky (people use paranoid :-) then all you have to do is have someone write a PROOF that God ccommended and indeed not say I HATE your music: I hate your slaughter: I hate your fleecing the people.  Attacking the person just won&#039;t work. And, indeed, I understand that it is your forum and you had rather not have any defense lawyers saying that our ancestors were not affilcited with a vile virus called &quot;speaking where the Bible speaks&quot; because outside of that there is no PROFESSION or CERTIFICATE OF NEED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted here because everyone played dumb on the instrument passages which are associated with Lucifer in the garden of Eden up to the speakers, singers and instrument players John called SORCERERS.</p>
<p>What I find &#8220;spookey&#8221; but gives me great comfort is that the modern spawn of scholars schooled with the goal of &#8220;exercising PROPHETIC roles to be Chanellers and Facilitarors&#8221; of making the NECESSARY changes which always boils down to the lust to have a singy-clappy group to watch making it IMPOSIBLE to even think about Jesus.</p>
<p>Why is that so well documented throughout Scripture and the modern doctors of the Law cannof find ANYTHING negative.  At the same time they cannot find any authority other than lifting parts of verses from among the CURSE of the monarchy, king, kingdom, temple.  At the same time the prophets speaking by Christ radically condemn the music and musicians and marks them as robbers and parasites.</p>
<p>My thesis is the you don&#8217;t know anyone in the &#8220;Nobility Circle&#8221; who knows or cares about the story line.</p>
<p>I just wanted to get your attention and make sure you lawyers are not going to send me a threatening form letter if I tell you the TRUE, ugly history of the PSALLO word which you can NEVER find an any school of theology.</p>
<p>Why else would Paul use the word SPEAK which is what you do in synagogue or school of the Bibe? And why do all of the original documnents define SPEAK as the opposite of POETRY or MUSIC?</p>
<p>As the sinful woman at the well could grasp that &#8220;when Messiah comes He will TELL us all things&#8221; and readily grasp that worship in her HOUSE or the Jews HOUSE at a pagan high place John called Sodom was NOT POSSIBLE. The alternative is to worship in the PLACE of the human spirit giving heed to the Truth.  Find anything Paul called CHURCH which did not define SYNAGOGUE as what the Campbells restored as A SCHOOL OF CHRIST. And his WORSHIP words mean to &#8220;give attention to the public reading of the Word and to define any doctrinal content and admonish everyone to obey what they learned.&#8221;  The literal WORSHIP word you would never do which meant to fall on your face in holy reverence. SPIRITUAL worship is only that which takes place in the HUMAN spirit which becomes A holy spirit after baptism.</p>
<p>Is it SPOOKY to tell you that there is not a single MUSIC content in the SPIRITUAL or SYNAGOGUE thread and what God always calls NOISE while &#8220;making the lambs dumbe before the slaughter&#8221; was callled EXORCISM.  The SHADOW means that it was a totally erroneous system and A COVENANT WITH DEATH such as the Marzeah in Amos.</p>
<p>All of the rationalizing from specific Scriptures PROVES that those promoting instruments cannot read the Bible with understanding because theology as a fabricated arena with &#8220;no certificate of need&#8221; where theology in the Greek would demand that you SPEAK only that which came from your &#8220;god.&#8221;</p>
<p>I say that a band carefully NOT TAUGHT anything historically understood for several decades have their OWN SYSTEM OF THINKING which which would get you executed if you used the same rationale in teaching your child about handling rattlesnakes.</p>
<p>I have colleted MOST of the material and you cannot find a jot or tittile having God say &#8220;I lust for that&#8221; or one jot or tittle which does not connected it with destructive people.  The REAL world IS spooky because CULTURE makes it certain that most will never study TRUE HISTORY but only MYTHOLOGICAL mind control versions.</p>
<p>If I am spooky (people use paranoid <img src='http://oneinjesus.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  then all you have to do is have someone write a PROOF that God ccommended and indeed not say I HATE your music: I hate your slaughter: I hate your fleecing the people.  Attacking the person just won&#8217;t work. And, indeed, I understand that it is your forum and you had rather not have any defense lawyers saying that our ancestors were not affilcited with a vile virus called &#8220;speaking where the Bible speaks&#8221; because outside of that there is no PROFESSION or CERTIFICATE OF NEED.</p>
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