Comments on: The Future of the Progressive Churches of Christ: An Idea for a Dialogue http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: youlackmadmen http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8787 youlackmadmen Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:54:14 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8787 Here are the top nominees so far. All other names were only put forward by one person. Jay Guin (4) John Mark Hicks (3) Landon Saunders (2) Patrick Mead (2) Todd Deaver (2) And here are the various format plans, presented Constitutional Convention style. The Guin Plan – A live chat at OneInJesus, open for reader comments. And buy an add at the Christian Chronicle to advertisement. The Starling Addendum – No comments (seconded by Short). The Himes Plan – a face-to-face discussion, followed up by a GraceConversation type forum. The Dabbs Addendum – Himes’ plan, plus youtube, and a CD mailout. Talk to New Wineskins about advertisement. The Madman Addendum – The Dabbs Addendum plus written essays by the participants placed on a blog. Create a mailing list of progressive bloggers to advertise. Here are the top nominees so far. All other names were only put forward by one person.

Jay Guin (4)
John Mark Hicks (3)
Landon Saunders (2)
Patrick Mead (2)
Todd Deaver (2)

And here are the various format plans, presented Constitutional Convention style.

The Guin Plan – A live chat at OneInJesus, open for reader comments. And buy an add at the Christian Chronicle to advertisement.

The Starling Addendum – No comments (seconded by Short).

The Himes Plan – a face-to-face discussion, followed up by a GraceConversation type forum.

The Dabbs Addendum – Himes’ plan, plus youtube, and a CD mailout. Talk to New Wineskins about advertisement.

The Madman Addendum – The Dabbs Addendum plus written essays by the participants placed on a blog. Create a mailing list of progressive bloggers to advertise.

]]> By: The future of Progressive churches of Christ? « Grace Digest http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8785 The future of Progressive churches of Christ? « Grace Digest Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:22:30 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8785 [...] and ideas about how to have discussions about it. You can read the post and following comments here. I didn’t want to hijack Jay’s comments with a long reply so, this post. My thoughts on [...] [...] and ideas about how to have discussions about it. You can read the post and following comments here. I didn’t want to hijack Jay’s comments with a long reply so, this post. My thoughts on [...]

]]> By: Scott Stegall http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8786 Scott Stegall Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:13:40 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8786 Anon, Our church had a wonderful "Faith in Action" sunday yesterday where we interacted with the neighbors and non-member citizens around our church facility by soliciting food, clothing, bicycles, cash etc for those in need...... we didn't even consider asking another cofC in town to participate or cooperate or join hands much less a NON cofC........ One step at a time...... we got a LONG ways to go....... until the cofC's can at least be civil to one another, we can't expect that other Christians to believe our love is remotely credible......... Get some dialogue started among our own flock with the idea of it spreading as God changes us!! Pick a format and let's raise the funds to promote it!!! Let's do it! Scott Anon,
Our church had a wonderful "Faith in Action" sunday yesterday where we interacted with the neighbors and non-member citizens around our church facility by soliciting food, clothing, bicycles, cash etc for those in need…… we didn't even consider asking another cofC in town to participate or cooperate or join hands much less a NON cofC……..

One step at a time…… we got a LONG ways to go……. until the cofC's can at least be civil to one another, we can't expect that other Christians to believe our love is remotely credible………

Get some dialogue started among our own flock with the idea of it spreading as God changes us!!

Pick a format and let's raise the funds to promote it!!! Let's do it!
Scott

]]> By: Zach Price http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8784 Zach Price Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:50:37 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8784 there are those more liberal than I that I think still have the holy spirit in them just as much as I do and so I dont think they are going to hell. how can you come to an informed logical position without all the ideas laid out to you. so in a way would something like this be looked upon as organization or a council or convention? what are the implications of that even if there is no authority behind it? what can you do if people are turned off by the idea of cooperation since that seems to go against the traditional CoC grain? there are those more liberal than I that I think still have the holy spirit in them just as much as I do and so I dont think they are going to hell. how can you come to an informed logical position without all the ideas laid out to you.

so in a way would something like this be looked upon as organization or a council or convention? what are the implications of that even if there is no authority behind it? what can you do if people are turned off by the idea of cooperation since that seems to go against the traditional CoC grain?

]]> By: Jay Guin http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8783 Jay Guin Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:47:54 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8783 Lannie, Thanks for that information. I had seen a reference to that effort on Alan Rouse's blog, and was thinking just earlier today that this is an approach we should look at -- just to see if the model fits us. I'll definitely be taking a look at it. Lannie,

Thanks for that information. I had seen a reference to that effort on Alan Rouse's blog, and was thinking just earlier today that this is an approach we should look at — just to see if the model fits us.

I'll definitely be taking a look at it.

]]> By: Lannie Cox http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8782 Lannie Cox Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:16:58 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8782 Brothers and sisters, I'm encouraged to hear this conversation. I grew up in the CofC and now serve as a minister in the International Churches of Christ. As a brother in the restoration movement, I think our fellowship has some help to offer here. As we have matured over the past few years, we have grown to be atonomous churches who forge unity through cooperation. Don't worry about getting every one represented. If you can get thought leaders in progressive churches who are willing to discuss how cooperation can be forged. Don't worry about who's excluded as much as the group that gathers agreeing to discuss things based on some agreed upon ground rules. Is the cooperation planting churches domestically and abroad? Is it benevelence? Is it writing papers to agree on scriptural convictions. Meet with those willing to meet in a spirit of cooperation and build slowly. Here are a few links that may have resources to consider. <a href="http://www.icoccooperation.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.icoccooperation.org</a> <a href="http://www.icocconference.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.icocconference.org</a> Most of the recent cooperation is transparent on these sites including lessons, discussions and decisions. We're growing in this, but I believe we are further down the road in this area. Even though we still have much more work left to do. God continues to form us into a healthy restoration fellowship who is allowing the Holy Spirit to create non competetive unity and cooperation. It fills my heart with joy to hear these ideas. Don't shackle yourself by making early conversations encyclopedic. Get the conversations going and know God will guide. I'd be happy to share more about my experiences. Grace, mercy and peace, Lannie Brothers and sisters,

I'm encouraged to hear this conversation. I grew up in the CofC and now serve as a minister in the International Churches of Christ. As a brother in the restoration movement, I think our fellowship has some help to offer here. As we have matured over the past few years, we have grown to be atonomous churches who forge unity through cooperation. Don't worry about getting every one represented. If you can get thought leaders in progressive churches who are willing to discuss how cooperation can be forged. Don't worry about who's excluded as much as the group that gathers agreeing to discuss things based on some agreed upon ground rules. Is the cooperation planting churches domestically and abroad? Is it benevelence? Is it writing papers to agree on scriptural convictions. Meet with those willing to meet in a spirit of cooperation and build slowly.

Here are a few links that may have resources to consider.
http://www.icoccooperation.org
http://www.icocconference.org

Most of the recent cooperation is transparent on these sites including lessons, discussions and decisions. We're growing in this, but I believe we are further down the road in this area. Even though we still have much more work left to do. God continues to form us into a healthy restoration fellowship who is allowing the Holy Spirit to create non competetive unity and cooperation. It fills my heart with joy to hear these ideas. Don't shackle yourself by making early conversations encyclopedic. Get the conversations going and know God will guide.

I'd be happy to share more about my experiences.

Grace, mercy and peace,
Lannie

]]> By: mattdabbs http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8781 mattdabbs Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:20:57 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8781 And what seeing if New Wineskins would be willing to help out? And what seeing if New Wineskins would be willing to help out?

]]> By: mattdabbs http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8780 mattdabbs Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:15:43 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8780 Royce, That is the one strange thing that keeps jumping out in this conversation...make sure to be inclusive of those who stand opposed to this. That doesn't really make any sense at all. It also doesn't make a lot of sense to get people from the Baptists, etc on board...I doubt many of them would be familiar enough with where we are coming from to really get it and be helpful. We don't need people on board who we have to get up to speed. We need people who are informed enough to jump right into this conversation. Royce,

That is the one strange thing that keeps jumping out in this conversation…make sure to be inclusive of those who stand opposed to this. That doesn't really make any sense at all. It also doesn't make a lot of sense to get people from the Baptists, etc on board…I doubt many of them would be familiar enough with where we are coming from to really get it and be helpful. We don't need people on board who we have to get up to speed. We need people who are informed enough to jump right into this conversation.

]]> By: Royce http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8779 Royce Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:54:04 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8779 Someone actually thinks it is a good idea to ask so called conservatives about the future of progressive churches? I can save you some time. They think we are going to hell. Royce Someone actually thinks it is a good idea to ask so called conservatives about the future of progressive churches? I can save you some time. They think we are going to hell.

Royce

]]> By: youlackmadmen http://oneinjesus.info/2009/10/the-future-of-the-progressive-churches-of-christ-an-idea-for-a-dialogue/#comment-8778 youlackmadmen Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:45:21 +0000 http://oneinjesus.info/?p=6671#comment-8778 Well obviously, I think that this is a good idea and I'm glad to hear that others do too. As for the format, I think that we should try to take advantage of as many platforms as possible. The discussion itself should be taped and placed online for the video-lovers. But people that prefer reading would probably benefit from something more...composed. So after the event, the issues discussed should be divided up among the participants, who will write a short essay on the conclusions reached. Then put that on a blog. Nominations? Yourself, Todd Deaver, Douglas Foster and Flavil Yeakley. The best way to get the word out would be to use what you've got. Pump it up on your blog, and email other bloggers you know and ask them to do the same. Writer a letter to the conservative periodicals etc. I don't think we should assume that the Chronicle will overlook this, though. This IS news and shame on them for never having done an article on the progressive movement before this. Well now, here's their chance. And you're right, someone may have to get a mailing list going one of these days too.. Well obviously, I think that this is a good idea and I'm glad to hear that others do too.

As for the format, I think that we should try to take advantage of as many platforms as possible. The discussion itself should be taped and placed online for the video-lovers. But people that prefer reading would probably benefit from something more…composed. So after the event, the issues discussed should be divided up among the participants, who will write a short essay on the conclusions reached. Then put that on a blog.

Nominations? Yourself, Todd Deaver, Douglas Foster and Flavil Yeakley.

The best way to get the word out would be to use what you've got. Pump it up on your blog, and email other bloggers you know and ask them to do the same. Writer a letter to the conservative periodicals etc. I don't think we should assume that the Chronicle will overlook this, though. This IS news and shame on them for never having done an article on the progressive movement before this. Well now, here's their chance.

And you're right, someone may have to get a mailing list going one of these days too..

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