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		<title>By: Jay Guin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Guin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bonnie.</description>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most articulate, sensible explanation of what seems to be happening to CoCs and Christianity in general that I have read.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most articulate, sensible explanation of what seems to be happening to CoCs and Christianity in general that I have read.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Starling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Starling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned a leadership vacuum with the loss of influence of editors and &quot;leading preachers.&quot;

The vacuum extends to the local congregations, with a generation of leaders lost. Ian Fair wrote of this in his book on leadership in the Kingdom of God. I had noticed this as early as the 1970&#039;s - and have seen it over and over. I blogged about it at http://committedtotruth.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/leadership-12a-more-on-the-family/.

Basically, my thesis is that without a strong male leader in a boy&#039;s life in his formative years, he will not develop into a strong leader himself - and a generation of boys&#039; fathers were away fighting in WWII. It was not until the boomers began to come of age that another group of leaders emerged, but these are the ones who, in the 60&#039;s &amp; 70&#039;s broke with the authoritarian approaches of the past (in some good ways as well as some that are not so good).


Jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned a leadership vacuum with the loss of influence of editors and &#8220;leading preachers.&#8221;</p>
<p>The vacuum extends to the local congregations, with a generation of leaders lost. Ian Fair wrote of this in his book on leadership in the Kingdom of God. I had noticed this as early as the 1970&#8217;s &#8211; and have seen it over and over. I blogged about it at <a href="http://committedtotruth.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/leadership-12a-more-on-the-family/" rel="nofollow">http://committedtotruth.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/leadership-12a-more-on-the-family/</a>.</p>
<p>Basically, my thesis is that without a strong male leader in a boy&#8217;s life in his formative years, he will not develop into a strong leader himself &#8211; and a generation of boys&#8217; fathers were away fighting in WWII. It was not until the boomers began to come of age that another group of leaders emerged, but these are the ones who, in the 60&#8217;s &amp; 70&#8217;s broke with the authoritarian approaches of the past (in some good ways as well as some that are not so good).</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Starling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Starling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, you wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Alexander Campbell wrote a series of articles in his periodical called the “Search for the Ancient Order” in which he argued for a return to the order of worship and form of church organization found in the New Testament. However, he explicitly stated that these teachings should be tests of fellowship.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you mean to say that Campbell &quot;explicitly stated that these thesching should &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; be texts of fellowship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, you wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Alexander Campbell wrote a series of articles in his periodical called the “Search for the Ancient Order” in which he argued for a return to the order of worship and form of church organization found in the New Testament. However, he explicitly stated that these teachings should be tests of fellowship.</p></blockquote>
<p>Did you mean to say that Campbell &#8220;explicitly stated that these thesching should <i>not</i> be texts of fellowship?</p>
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		<title>By: Replanting a Denomination: The Empty Church &#171; One In Jesus.info</title>
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		<dc:creator>Replanting a Denomination: The Empty Church &#171; One In Jesus.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conservative preacher), who participated with me in the GraceConversation dialogue, wrote in a comment, I would recommend you consider the points raised in “The Empty Church: The Suicide of Liberal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conservative preacher), who participated with me in the GraceConversation dialogue, wrote in a comment, I would recommend you consider the points raised in “The Empty Church: The Suicide of Liberal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Guin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Guin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L.B.

Thanks. Correction made.</description>
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<p>Thanks. Correction made.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Alan Tidwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Alan Tidwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Guin;

I would recommend you consider the points raised in &quot;The Empty Church: The Suicide of Liberal Christianity.&quot; Thomas C. Reeves, a member of a major Protestant denomination, chronicles the demise of his and other liberal groups.

Except for a vague ecumenical  aspiration, and a shared disdain for traditional Church of Christism, I find very little around which my Progressive friends can coalesce. You message almost seems to be, &quot;You don&#039;t believe very much, and we don&#039;t believe very much, so why don&#039;t we all get together and share our lack of convictions together.&quot;

Best wishes to you and yours in the coming year,

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother Guin;</p>
<p>I would recommend you consider the points raised in &#8220;The Empty Church: The Suicide of Liberal Christianity.&#8221; Thomas C. Reeves, a member of a major Protestant denomination, chronicles the demise of his and other liberal groups.</p>
<p>Except for a vague ecumenical  aspiration, and a shared disdain for traditional Church of Christism, I find very little around which my Progressive friends can coalesce. You message almost seems to be, &#8220;You don&#8217;t believe very much, and we don&#8217;t believe very much, so why don&#8217;t we all get together and share our lack of convictions together.&#8221;</p>
<p>Best wishes to you and yours in the coming year,</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Anders Branderud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders Branderud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A logical analysis (found here: www.netzarim.co.il ) of the earliest manusscripts (including the logical implications of the research by Ben-Gurion Univ. Prof. of Linguistics Elisha Qimron of Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT)) of “the gospel of Matthew”, implies that Ribi Yehoshua was a Perushi (Pharisee). Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) from Nazareth was called a Ribi and only the Perushim (Pharisees) had Ribis.

The same logical analysis proves that the Church and Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakhs followers Netzarim were two different movements that were always separated.
The historical Ribi Yehoshua didn’t not teach about building an antinomian Church.

Anders Branderud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A logical analysis (found here: <a href="http://www.netzarim.co.il" rel="nofollow">http://www.netzarim.co.il</a> ) of the earliest manusscripts (including the logical implications of the research by Ben-Gurion Univ. Prof. of Linguistics Elisha Qimron of Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT)) of “the gospel of Matthew”, implies that Ribi Yehoshua was a Perushi (Pharisee). Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) from Nazareth was called a Ribi and only the Perushim (Pharisees) had Ribis.</p>
<p>The same logical analysis proves that the Church and Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakhs followers Netzarim were two different movements that were always separated.<br />
The historical Ribi Yehoshua didn’t not teach about building an antinomian Church.</p>
<p>Anders Branderud</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://oneinjesus.info/2010/01/replanting-a-denomination-the-growth-cycle/#comment-9791</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Episcopal church. Episcopal is the adjective; Episcopalian is a noun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episcopal church. Episcopal is the adjective; Episcopalian is a noun.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words the Church of Christ denomination has the correct understanding of the Bible, disagreement with what the COC denomination says is wrong since no one else cares about the Bible. Such an odd thing to say when those who attend the COC denomination argue disagreeing over much of the Bible. That wouldn’t have anything to do with people leaving there would it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words the Church of Christ denomination has the correct understanding of the Bible, disagreement with what the COC denomination says is wrong since no one else cares about the Bible. Such an odd thing to say when those who attend the COC denomination argue disagreeing over much of the Bible. That wouldn’t have anything to do with people leaving there would it.</p>
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