It’s Greek to Me!

I’ve been trying for hours to figure a way to post selected words in Greek or Hebrew (mainly Greek). I’d really like to be able to do that in the comments, as well.

I’ve been through a dozen or more WordPress plug ins, web sites, tutorials, and I can find nothing that works.

When I go into BibleWorks (or Logos) and copy and paste a Greek text into the visual editor, it shows up looking like: ð?óôåùò (which was supposed to be pistews = “faith”). When I paste it into the HTML editor, it looks exactly right in the editor, until published, and then it looks like: ???????.

So I figured several readers here also post on WordPress and maybe one or two has figured this out. How do I post Greek characters?

And I’d really like to be able to post a long o and long e, that is, an o with a bar on top or e with a bar on top — so I can transliterate an eta or omega into a long e or long o. But the symbols set has every odd looking e and o other than a long e and long o.

So I’m thinking I’m missing something obvious. Maybe I need to say “Mother, may I?” or “Simon says” or something.

Help!

About Jay F Guin

My name is Jay Guin, and I’m a retired elder. I wrote The Holy Spirit and Revolutionary Grace about 18 years ago. I’ve spoken at the Pepperdine, Lipscomb, ACU, Harding, and Tulsa lectureships and at ElderLink. My wife’s name is Denise, and I have four sons, Chris, Jonathan, Tyler, and Philip. I have two grandchildren. And I practice law.
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13 Responses to It’s Greek to Me!

  1. Price says:

    I bet Les Miles knows how. Lol.

  2. Chris Jenks says:

    Standards-based browsers recognize a host of character sets. In order to specify which characters are generated by the browser when if loads a page, the tag must be altered. There is a reference here (http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_charactersets.asp). That is the easy part. I have not yet found how to change the tag in WordPress. I assume it would be done in the theme editor. I just have not dug that far yet. Right now I am hoping the cocktail of Rocephin, Decadron, and Mucinex-D will speed me through final class preparation. Enjoy your trip!

  3. Luke says:

    I’m not a WordPress expert but I have seen this happen before to apps when the database character set was configured incorrectly and thus prevented the Unicode characters from being saved properly (http://codex.wordpress.org/Converting_Database_Character_Sets).

  4. Matt Dabbs says:

    Tyndale unicode fonts
    ???
    ???

    It gives you a little toggle button on your windows task bar, down by the desktop button, time, etc that lets you switch in just about any application between Greek, Hebrew, and English…works like a charm!

    http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=unicode

  5. Matt Dabbs says:

    well…they didn’t show up right on your blog. I typed one word in Greek and one in Hebrew…that is weird. It works in wordpress.com when I publish Greek and Hebrew words. Maybe just not in the comments?

  6. HistoryGuy says:

    Testing two keyboard programs I use-

    ?????????
    ?????????

  7. Jay Guin says:

    Price wrote,

    I bet Les Miles knows how. Lol.

    I tried chewing grass. And wearing a hat. Didn’t help.

  8. Jay Guin says:

    Chris,

    Oddly enough, the browser has no trouble displaying the characters. But the HTML editor in WordPress converts the characters into garbage. But I’ve seen people do it … There’s a way.

  9. Matt Dabbs says:

    Well Jay, the link I posted should give you the tools to post in Greek or Hebrew, just not comment in them. Have you tried it out?

  10. Jay Guin says:

    Matt,

    I installed the fonts, got the language bar to display on my tool bar, and it works great in the HTML editor — but doesn’t show when published. It’s just question marks.

    I switch to EL and type, and up come the Greek characters, but they won’t display when published.

    Any other thoughts?

  11. Matt Dabbs says:

    I just did a test comment with the Tyndale fonts in wordpress.com and it worked just fine in the comments. Not sure why it won’t work with a hosted blog.

  12. Jay Guin says:

    Matt,

    Thanks for plugging away. I’ve asked Theobloggers for help because, like you, I think it’s a problem with my installation, not WordPress. We’ll see what they come up with.

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