Comments on: Buried Talents http://oneinjesus.info Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:13:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: “being subject to one another in fear of Christ” Part 1 « A Wife’s Submission http://oneinjesus.info/books-by-jay-guin/buried-talents/#comment-18 “being subject to one another in fear of Christ” Part 1 « A Wife’s Submission Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:21:41 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/buried-talents-in-search-for-a-new-consensus-on-the-role-of-women/#comment-18 [...] is a man who understands the implications of PASSIVE voice!  He also has published a book online (Buried Talents–on the role of women) which includes a chapter about Ephesians 5 (Ephesians 5–Mutual [...] [...] is a man who understands the implications of PASSIVE voice!  He also has published a book online (Buried Talents–on the role of women) which includes a chapter about Ephesians 5 (Ephesians 5–Mutual [...]

]]> By: Jay Guin http://oneinjesus.info/books-by-jay-guin/buried-talents/#comment-17 Jay Guin Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:09:54 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/buried-talents-in-search-for-a-new-consensus-on-the-role-of-women/#comment-17 Charis, In v. 22, the verb is borrowed from 5:21, which is a present passive or middle participle. "Submitting yourselves" in 21 sounds very middle to my ear. In v. 24, "is subject to" is present indicative middle. I get my tenses from Zodhiates. I've looked at your website. I'm not sure we really disagree as to the outcome. I'm no advocate for paternalism. Charis,

In v. 22, the verb is borrowed from 5:21, which is a present passive or middle participle. "Submitting yourselves" in 21 sounds very middle to my ear.

In v. 24, "is subject to" is present indicative middle.

I get my tenses from Zodhiates.

I've looked at your website. I'm not sure we really disagree as to the outcome. I'm no advocate for paternalism.

]]> By: Charis http://oneinjesus.info/books-by-jay-guin/buried-talents/#comment-16 Charis Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:37:47 +0000 http://jayguin.wordpress.com/buried-talents-in-search-for-a-new-consensus-on-the-role-of-women/#comment-16 I was looking at your material on Ephesians 5, and I was also looking at : "MDR: The passive-voice argument". Please re-consider your interpretation of the passages where "wife" and "submit" occur together. In every instance except one, the hupotasso verbs are in the <b> passive voice</b>! See <a href="http://hupotasso.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/husband-is-head-of-wife-therefore-as-the-church-is-subject-to-christ-so-also-the-wives-to-husbands-in-everything/" rel="nofollow">husband is head of wife…THEREFORE:</a> I was looking at your material on Ephesians 5, and I was also looking at : "MDR: The passive-voice argument".

Please re-consider your interpretation of the passages where "wife" and "submit" occur together. In every instance except one, the hupotasso verbs are in the passive voice!

See husband is head of wife…THEREFORE:

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