Apologetics: Ruminations on Eden, the Flood, Babel & Archaeology, with a Surprise Ending, Part 5

Science and ReligionProposition: Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden are a special creation within the Creation

I believe God created Adam and Eve from scratch, just as is described in Genesis 2. There was a real, literal Garden of Eden, just as is described in Genesis 2. The rest of this is admittedly speculation, but speculation with a purpose — to demonstrate that there is at least one way, perhaps more, to reconcile the archaeology of early man with Genesis 4-9. Continue reading

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Apologetics: Ruminations on Eden, the Flood, Babel & Archaeology, with a Surprise Ending, Part 4

 

Science and ReligionThe curse of
Genesis 3

If the fossil record reveals death, disease, weed, thistles, and even cataclysmic destruction of animal life long before 4004 BC, what did the curse on creation that resulted from sin produce in Genesis 3?

It’s a good and fair question — and the fossil records does not reveal a dramatic change in animal disease or the fertility of the soil in about 4004 BC.  And yet the curse of Genesis 3 is a major part of Paul’s theology, especially as discussed by him in Romans 8. Continue reading

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Apologetics: Ruminations on Eden, the Flood, Babel & Archaeology: An Interview with N. T. Wright

The world's leading New Testament scholar has written a controversial new book on the Bible that promises to both please and rankle Christians of almost every persuasion.

Take the time to read this brief interview with N. T. Wright on some topics we’ve touched on here. It’ll be well worth your time.

Wright speaks at a fairly elevated level, so be prepared to be challenged.

I’ve just GOT to buy this book (even though I STILL haven’t finished Paul and the Faithfulness of God).

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Apologetics: Ruminations on Eden, the Flood, Babel & Archaeology, with a Surprise Ending, Part 3

Science and Religion Death

(Rom 5:12-13 ESV) 12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned — 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.

“Death” entered the world through Adam. Some say that animals did not die before Adam, which is why God did not allow them to be eaten. But this, of course, means that the Tyrannosaurus Rex ate Brussels sprouts and passed on the roast beef. It’s really hard to imagine. In fact, the fossil record does not reveal any time when there were no carnivores and no death among animals. If there were no deaths, there’d be no fossils! Continue reading

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Apologetics: Ruminations on Eden, the Flood, Babel & Archaeology, with a Surprise Ending, Part 2

Science and ReligionThe Biblical Evidence Reconsidered

Cain

The account of Cain in Genesis 4 has always been a difficult passage, and the difficulty comes from the text, long before Darwin and dinosaurs. For example,

(Gen 4:10-17 ESV) 10 And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to me from the ground. 11 And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth.”

3 Cain said to the LORD, “My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

15 Then the LORD said to him, “Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the LORD put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. 16 Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden. 17 Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.

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Apologetics: Ruminations on Eden, the Flood, Babel & Archaeology, with a Surprise Ending, Part 1

Science and ReligionIntroduction

For the longest time, I refused to read about ancient humans and pre-humans. I preferred not to know because it made it easier to read Genesis 2 – 9 literally. But additional experiments and observations have only strengthened the case that man first appeared in Africa and that man had spread across the globe — to all continents other than Antarctica and nearly all islands — long before 4004 BC.

So what does all this mean for Adam and Eve? And more importantly, what does it mean for Paul’s theology that is often built on the existence of Adam and the fall of man in Genesis 3?

Now we have to be careful not to build our position on just one or two verses. There are quite a few passages that bear on the question. It’s not a simple question, and we should not answer simplistically. A lot of work has been done by Christian apologists and others to deal with the Big Bang. Much less has been done with Eden and the Flood. Continue reading

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Oops

Just posted Part 18 prematurely by accident. I’ll most likely post it for real tomorrow or Saturday.

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Time Off

I’m going to take a day or two off — even staying away from the comments. I’m through researching Young Earth Creationist claims. I need to spend my time working on the next phase of this series.

You are welcome to continue to comment while I’m gone on the following conditions:

1. Rather than expecting me or someone else to respond to Young Earth Creationist claims, before you post yet another one, Google the key words and find the websites that take the opposite view, and if you still want to post the claim, post links to both the source of the claim and to the counter-arguments made by others.

It’s critical that the church be willing to have its fact claims tested. We can’t be making false claims and expect our legitimate claims to be accepted. We can’t listen to just one side of the argument — the side we want to win.

And I would say the same thing in the other direction. I’ve read a LOT of Creation Science materials. When I say that science teaches X, I’ve read the Creation Science position and considered very carefully — so carefully that for a while I believed them to be right.

2. No challenges to orthodox doctrine of the Trinity. (And if someone breaks the rule, no responses to a violator.)

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Apologetics: The Bible and Science, Part 17 (On How to Get a Date)

 

Science and ReligionThis is the last post on Genesis 1. From here, we move on to Eden, Cain, the Flood, and Babel — and the pace will pick up quite a bit.

However, I could not leave this topic without dealing with the dating controversy. You see, it all began with James Watt and Alfred Nobel.  Watt invented the steam engine and Nobel invented dynamite. And these two inventions led to the railroad and the need to build tracks through mountains and hills — which steam engines and dynamite allowed. Continue reading

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Apologetics: The Bible and Science, Part 16 (Echoes of the Big Bang)

Science and ReligionIn the Big Bang Theory, the universe begins as chaos, with intense energy but no visible light because other particles get in the way so that light could not be seen. It was dark.

But then, the dark and the light were separated, so that the light of the newly created matter became visible. But there were no stars just yet. Hence, there was light but no stars — which come later – just as in Genesis 1. Continue reading

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