My own understanding of the church/state question begins with Romans 1. Paul describes the condition of the world outside the church to demonstrate that we need a Savior.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator–who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Paul says that the world without God is sexually perverse and filled with many obvious sins because “God gave them over” to such wickedness. Just in case we weren’t paying attention, he says it three times.
Why did God do this? Why would God want the lost to act so horribly? Obviously, God’s desire is that the lost be saved, but so long as they are lost, it serves God’s purposes for the futility and self-destructiveness of their existence to be manifest. It serves God’s purpose for the lost to be obviously different from the saved.
Why did God send Jesus at a time whenthe Roman Empire was much like 21st Century America–filled with sexual license and perversion, even celebrating wickedness? I think Jesus came when he did because that was a time when men’s hearts were most open to the gospel. It was a time when the contrast between righteousness and worldliness was obvious, and a time when the need for the gospel was plain.
Therefore, if the church uses the power of government to make the lost act like the saved, wouldn’t we be working at cross purposes with God? Nothing in the Bible calls on the church to impose its will on the lost. Rather, we are to persuade the lost to saved (2 Cor. 5:11).
The trouble with this (not that I disagree), is that “giving them over” to non-Christian ways almost invariably results in injury to the poor and vulnerable. Giving the South over to slavery made wickedness apparent, but did little to help slaves. Giving the 60s over to the sexual revolution made wickedness apparent, but allowed the wholesale destruction of the poor black family. And on and on it goes, and, I imagine, will go.
You’re right, of course. See my comments at /2007/03/11/the-political-church-the-1-corinthians-5-argument/#more-307 dealing with 1 Cor. 5.
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The Word is so specific on this point, no ambiguity whatsoever, all protests to the
contrary seem pointless, even selfserving. I make it a practice not to argue with God’s
motives. After all He does not seem to be fond of catering to satan’s disciples. The
wickedness of Sodom was intolerable to Him then as well as now. I doubt many of
your subscribers have witnessed firsthand the utter depravity satan has unleased on
mankind. The PC gullible have hoodwinked the secular mentality of an increasing
number of churchmen into an unholy compromise.
While at ACC in the late fifties I had a roommate in the old barracks with those
latent cravings, he confessed to that. He was from an influential Houston family,
CofC. He only stayed one year, I considered him a friend. He was faithful and
active in his congregation. Some years later he married and had two lovely girls.
Then in the late ’70s I contacted him once more. He was living with a man. We
parted amicably, I was no saint either, I have always been non-judgemental. But
it haunted me that a former Christian would descend into hell after receiving the
grace of God. Another close friend had one son who left home to come out of the
closet in California. He died a horrible death of AIDS with his parents at his bedside.
His last words to his Dad was to warn people not to go where he did.
Am I prejudiced? Probably but with insight.