The subordination of women did not begin in Genesis 2, but in Genesis 3.
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.'”
“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?”
He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”
And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”
The man said, “The woman you put here with me-she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
Then the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
To the woman he said, “I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”
To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat of it,’ “cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.”
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living. The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.
And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.
After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree
Let’s first look at the particular curses.
The curse of the serpent. First, God cursed the serpent. The “seed” of the woman is prophesied as bruising the head of the serpent. The use of “seed” here is very unusual. The ancients normally used “seed” to refer to the male element of reproduction, likening the sex act to the man planting seed in the woman. In fact, until only a few centuries ago, it was believed that babies were contained in the sperm. If a baby was born looking like its mother, the resemblance was considered to be because the baby’s development was affected by the mother’s characteristics while in the womb. The ancients never spoke of a woman’s seed.
Thus, most commentators take this use as the first prophecy of the Messiah and His virgin birth. Jesus bruised the head of the serpent by delivering a truly severe blow to Satan’s kingdom. But the serpent bruised Jesus’ heel by being a constant opponent and, thus far, preventing the Kingdom of Heaven from including the entire Creation.
The curse of Eve. The curse and prophecy as to the serpent are followed by a curse on Eve. God tells her that her pain in childbearing will greatly increase. The significance of this cannot be understated. Until very recently, there was a very high death rate in childbearing. The pain of childbearing before modern antibiotics, sanitation, Cesarean sections, and such was many times greater than it is now.
God next curses the woman by causing her husband to rule over her. Notice these things:
1. This was a change. If Adam already had the rule over Eve, then why did God say He was doing this to her because of her sin? Thus, nothing in Genesis 1 or 2 can support an argument for male rule.
2. God states that husbands rule over wives — under His curse. He does not curse all women with being under the rule of all men.
3. God also states that the wife’s desire will be for her husband. This curse has been interpreted many different ways.
a. Some suggest that this refers to sexual desire, the idea being that the woman cannot avoid the pain of childbearing due to her sexual desires. But this makes sexual desire by a wife for a husband a curse, which is clearly not God’s plan. Adam and Eve were commanded on the Sixth Day to be fruitful and multiply. Sex was a part of the plan from the beginning and is not a result of sin.
b. Others suggest that wives are cursed with wanting to do their husband’s will. But this suggestion fails for lack of evidence.
c. A third group suggests an interpretation based on the close similarity of the language of the curse to Genesis 4:7:
“If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it.”
In the King James Version, this verse says that “unto thee shall be [sin’s] desire, and thou shalt rule over him.” The NIV translators have paraphrased this passage to interpret “unto thee shall be his desire” to mean “it desires to have you.” Thus, in Genesis 3, the virtually identical phrasing, only a few verses away, must mean that woman’s desire for her husband is her desire to rule her husband. God is saying that although the wife may want to rule her husband, under His curse, the husband will rule the wife.
A result of Adam’s and Eve’s sin is strife in marriage. Both husbands and wives will want to be in charge, but in the ordinary case, the husband will succeed in ruling over his wife. And certainly the last several thousand years have proven this to be very true indeed.
The curse of Adam. God next curses Adam for his sin. Adam will be required to earn a living by the sweat of his brow, and the ground will produce thistles and thorns.
The curse of mankind. Finally, God makes man mortal. We all die because of the sin of Adam and Eve.
The meaning of the curses. Genesis 3 is known to students of the Bible as the Fall of Man. It is the account of the first sin and marks the beginning of the separation of man from God. It is exactly this separation that Jesus died to cure. Jesus came to earth to undo the curse. Man sinned, both male and female, and therefore death came into the world. Paul explains this in Romans:
(Rom. 5:12-18) Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned-for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. … For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
But the Fall of Man affected much more than our own mortality and our relationship with God. The entire Creation was corrupted by man’s sin.
(Rom. 8:20-23) For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
We see, therefore, that the curses pronounced in Genesis 3 are only examples of the complete corruption of the Creation. Everything decays. Nothing is permanent. All that is living will die. This corruption affects our marriages, our work, our childbearing, our relationships with God, and everything made.
(Eph. 4:22-24) You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
(1 Pet. 1:22-23) Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart. For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
(2 Pet. 1:4) Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
The italicized word in each quoted passage is from the same Greek root as “decay” found in Romans 8:22. Because of sin, Paul says in Romans that we are in bondage to decay (or corruption, or perishability). He then says in Ephesians that we had been corrupt before our salvation, but our new self is to be like God (that is, not corrupted by sin). Peter tells us in 1 Peter that by being saved we have relinquished our perishable, fleshly nature (that is, our corrupted nature) and replaced it with an imperishable nature. In 2 Peter he tells us that God gives each of us a part of his divine nature (the Holy Spirit, immortality) that allows us to escape the corruption of the world.
But we know from Romans and 1 Corinthians that the corruption of the world came from the curse in Genesis 3, which followed the entry of sin into the world. Thus, we are instructed to escape these curses, not to impose them on one another!
We are all going to keep sinning, but sinning is still sinning, and we are bound to our Lord to try to stop and to rid ourselves of sin so far as it is within our abilities.
(1 Cor. 15:21-26) For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
We see in 1 Corinthians that death, which came through Adam, is Christ’s enemy and will be the last enemy destroyed. Moreover, we see that Paul describes the corruption of Creation as the enemy of God.
Therefore, we must understand that the curses pronounced in Genesis 3 are curses and not commands — far from it. They are evidence of the decay and corruption produced by sin and the frustration Creation has been subjected to while awaiting the end of time. How then can we command our women members to obey a “command” that is not a command but a description of the consequence of sin?
Adam’s rule over Eve (3:16) was not God’s original design in Creation, but the curse God placed on Eve for her disobedience. It is a perversion of God’s intentions for the relationship between a man and wife, and never has been his real desire.
John T. Willis, “Women in the Old Testament,” published in Osburn, editor, Essays on Women 1, page 35.
This argument will surely be hard for many readers to accept, but it becomes much clearer when we consider the other curses. The man is cursed to work by the sweat of his brow. Does this mean that air conditioning is a sin, because it is contrary to God’s eternal design? Are anti-perspirants wrong? Is it wrong to use herbicides and pre-emergents to prevent the growth of weeds? Didn’t God intend that we work the fields by hand to rid them of weeds? Must all men work in the fields? Is office work a sin?
Is it a sin to use anesthesia to relieve the pain of childbearing? Or is that also part of God’s eternal plan? For that matter, why should we resist any of the world’s corruption? God corrupted it, who are we to oppose it?
I read with horror the description of the fate of Eufame MacLayne … . Eufame was a woman living in 16th century Scotland, pregnant with twins. Her labor was complicated and very painful, and during it she requested painkilling herbs to help her deliver her babies. Births had high mortality rates in those days, but Eufame and her twins were able to come out of it alive. Unfortunately, word got out that Eufame had used painkillers. Painkillers were forbidden, said the church leaders, for it was God’s law that women suffer in childbirth. Therefore, the babies were taken from this new mother, and she was tied to a stake and burned.
Jo-Ann Tsang (1996), quoting Gundry, P. (1986) “Why We’re Here” in A. Mickelson, editor, Women, Authority, and the Bible.
Another version of this and similar events, related in the context of a discussion of the impact of Christianity on modern medicine, appears in Lynn Winters, Our Judaic-Christian Heritage, An Inquiry into the Ideas and Forces that Link the Thought of Our Time with Our Religious Past.
During all this time, there was no tradition of using painkiller to relieve the pain of women going though labor. (Opium can halt the progression of labor, although alcohol does not). Women midwives could be accused of witchcraft if they employed such drugs. One such case occurred in 1591,when a woman of high social standing, Eufame Macalyane, asked Agnes Sampson to help relieve her pain during the births of her two sons. Agnes Sampson was later arrested and tried before King James for this heresy. She was condemned as a witch and burned alive at the Castle Hill of Edinburgh.
It was not until 1846, that ether was successfully administered as an anesthetic during an operation. In 1847, Dr. James Y. Simpson, professor of obstetrics at the University of Glasgow successfully used chloroform to relieve the suffering of a woman patient in childbirth. After he published a report on his success, he was denounced because the pain of childbirth was claimed by many to go against God’s plan for mankind — ie that women “deserved” to suffer due to Eve’s crime in the Garden of Eden. …
One clergyman for example argued: “chloroform is a decoy of Satan, apparently offering itself to bless women; but in the end it will harden society and rob God of the deep earnest cries which arise in time of trouble for help.” (Haggard, Ibid, p 108) …
In 1853, when Queen Victoria, announced she wanted to use chloroform during the delivery of her seventh child, Prince Leopold, the Archbishop of Canterbury warned her that this was unbiblical — and reminded her of the verse, “In sorrow shalt thou bring forth children!”
We are quite properly repelled at the thought of punishing a laboring woman for taking painkillers. We instinctively know that pain in childbirth is a curse, not a command, and a curse that we are free to overcome. But we can’t consistently reject the views of the 16th Century English church and at the same time insist that Genesis 3:16 commands husbands to rule over their wives.
Adam and Eve corrupted the world, not God, and we are God’s children charged with working to undo the curse. We do this by bringing others to Jesus to escape the curse of death, by alleviating suffering, by struggling against the corruption of this world any way we can — and this certainly includes doing so within our marriages. We are compelled as Christians to work to rid our marriages of sin, including the quest for dominion over our spouse, and to rid our churches of sin as well.
At this point, many readers will wonder how this interpretation of Genesis can be reconciled with New Testament passages on the role of women. We will be getting to these other passages, and we certainly don’t believe that Paul or any other Bible author contradicts the lessons of Genesis 1, 2, and 3.
But the meaning of the curses pronounced in Genesis 3 is plain. They simply are not commands, and should not be taught as commands. If the curse of a husband’s dominion over his wife is a command, then so are the other curses, and we should deny our wives painkillers in childbirth. We can’t have it both ways. Because Genesis 3 is a curse on Creation when we study the Fall of Man, it is a curse when we study the role of women.
In essence, you are struggling against a circular argument, Jay.
How do we know that Paul means for men to rule over women? He points to Creation!
How do we know that God meant for men to rule over women? Paul says so!
May we have Berean minds as we investigate these things…
in HIS love,
nick
In justifying his teaching about the role of men and women, Paul uses Genesis 2 as well as Genesis 3. Eve was created *for* Adam, and Eve sinned first. Both are eternally true points, and both points are made by Paul in the Christian era. Neither point had become irrelevant to Christian relationships, in Paul's mind.
It is certainly true that Paul argues from the fact that the Eve was created for Adam (a reference to her purpose as a suitable complement) and that she sinned first. This does not mean that Paul is reasoning from Gen 3:16.
Given Paul's theology of the Fall, it's impossible that he is urging Timothy to insist on the continuation of the Curses that came with the Fall.
Nor could Paul be insisting that all women must bear punishment for Eve's sin. After all, he blames Adam for the Fall in Romans 5 —
Coffman (and many with him) argue that Paul is saying women are too gullible for leadership. And that argument fails because it's just not true. There are gullible women, but hardly all. And I know many churches ruined by gullible male elders.
Rather, he must be making an entirely different point.
Perhaps 1st century women WERE too gullible, because they were completely uneducated beyond the day-to-day tasks of running a household. Thus, they need to be allowed and encouraged to learn – not for the purpose of taking over but for the purpose of fulfilling their role as equal members of the covenant.
How does Matthew 6:10 affect our understanding of this question?
No one in this discussion is denying that Eve was shaped by God FOR Adam. That is the clear statement of the Genesis text.
What is being denied is the doctrine that order of creation equals order of authority. This is not a clear teaching of Genesis 2. Why would ONE FLESH need a ruling party and a submissive party? It wouldn't. It would need things to be done as they are within the Godhead – mutual submission and equality of standing (Eph 5:21; Gal 3:28).
Now, when sin enters the picture, the one flesh is divided within itself just as each sinner is separated from God. So strife arises within the male/female relationship (it started even before the curse was uttered, as Adam and Eve shift blame away from themselves). God says that part of Eve's curse is having her desire for power over her man thwarted at every turn, as he rules over her.
In the kingdom of God, the curse is being reversed. "May your will be done on earth as in heaven." If there is no more curse "in heaven" (Rev 22:3), then there is no more curse in the church (Rom 8:31-39).
Paul's commands to the Christians in Corinth and Ephesus generally, and to Timothy and Titus specifically, must be understood in the context of curse reversal and covenant life, not curse perpetuation. Life in the New Jerusalem will restore, fulfill, and consummate the promise of Eden, the promise we destroyed in Adam.
Perpetuation of the curse under the New Covenant is more regressive even than a return to Old Covenant atonement and covenant membership practices. Life under the Old Covenant pointed towards life under the New. For life in the New to point back to the horrors of life under the curse with no covenant at all (Gen 3-11) is truly scary.
No text — especially a difficult one — has been properly exegeted unless (at least) the exegesis meets two tests —
First, and most importantly, it must be true to the gospel, including the work of God through history and through Jesus.
Second, of course, the words themselves must be consistent with our interpretation.
Speaking as a highly trained loophole finder (a lawyer, for you new readers), it's really quite amazing the different meanings words can take on. It's also amazing how easily someone's words can be misunderstood (we've all been victims of that, I'm sure) by those who are reading the words from a different viewpoint.
Indeed, the job of a contract lawyer is to write words that cannot be misconstrued — and it's not easy or even fully possible. (Don't you imagine that Thomas Jefferson and James Madison are astounded at times at the meanings found in their words!) This is why contracts are so long and hard to read.
Therefore, the first and surest guide is to start with the gospel. And the gospel tells us that Jesus came to undo the curse and that we are to participate in its defeat.
We'll get to the words, of course. But it's best, I think, to take the journey in proper order … because we have to practice reading with gospel eyes.
Agreed. Paul does not explicitly say that the relationship between a man and woman in the Christian era is a part of the curse of Gen 3:16. But he does say it is because Eve sinned first (and also because woman was created for man).
One of his two reasons refers to a time before the fall, and one after. So the relationship he thus explains exists independent of the fall — but is also further justified by the fall.
Romans 5 teaches that death came into the world because of Adam's sin. Many died because of one man's sin. That does not mean that when I die, it is punishment for something someone else did. But it is a *consequence* of what someone else did. (as is our resurrection — see 1 Cor 15:21-23).
Similarly, a woman's relationship to man is not punishment for someone else's sin. But Paul plainly states that it is (in part) a consequence of someone else's sin.
In 1Corinthians 15 he wrote:
So the effects of the fall are not fully eliminated until Jesus returns. Death was part of the curse from the fall (Gen 3:19). God warned in advance that this would happen (Gen 2:17). The gospel does indeed redeem us from the curse of death. Yet we will still die (unless Christ returns first!) The victory over death is our resurrection from the dead. So death — a consequences of Adam's sin — persists in the Christian era. Similarly, Paul made it clear that the effects of Eve's sin on the relationship between man and woman still persist in the Christian era.
So we should stop fighting death, since God warned us that we would not defeat it?
Yes, Paul made it clear that the effects of Eve's sin still persist, but he never tells us to surrender to those effects, any more than we are commanded to collude with death.
We celebrate the promised defeat of death by living now as if it were already defeated.
We should respond likewise to the promised restoration of peace between the genders.
Paul taught that "those effects" should affect the relationship between men and women in the church. Or, more precisely, the Holy Spirit said that.
You'll have to convince me that Paul meant that they SHOULD affect the relationship.
I believe he meant that they WILL affect the relationship.
Paul wrote:
So, Paul was in a position where he could have permitted a woman to have authority over a man, but he did not permit it. Why? One of his stated reasons was that Eve was the one who was deceived. Paul did what he did because of Eve's role in the fall. And he called Timothy to do likewise. I don't think there is any other rational way to take it, than that the fall *should* cause us to conduct the roles as he described, and as he himself did.
That argument does not hold, brother. We know from Romans 5 how Paul felt about Adam. He did not need to repeat it here for Timothy, his long-time companion and student.
You are suggesting that Paul says the following:
Eve was tricked, so women should not have authority over men.
Adam deliberately rebelled against God, so men should have authority over women.
As I said, that argument does not hold.
I do believe that Paul is saying that women must not be allowed to TAKE OVER because of the created order. They were created to be 'ezer kenegdo, not usurpers.
I do not believe this passage asserts universal male authority. As I've pointed out above, the nature of the argument itself undermines the whole idea (unless being a deliberate rebel is a qualification for leadership, while being deceived disqualifies one from leadership).