Good stuff.
(And here’s hoping that Tim forgives me.)
About Jay F Guin
My name is Jay Guin, and I’m a retired elder. I wrote The Holy Spirit and Revolutionary Grace about 18 years ago. I’ve spoken at the Pepperdine, Lipscomb, ACU, Harding, and Tulsa lectureships and at ElderLink.
My wife’s name is Denise, and I have four sons, Chris, Jonathan, Tyler, and Philip. I have two grandchildren. And I practice law.
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All is forgiven.
Jay,
I have a question…. what is anti nomianism… and would you say your teaching leans that way… (I get emails)…
Thank you,
Jack,
The same allegation was made against Paul —
Paul refused to require obedience to the Torah’s commands re circumcision, clean foods, holy days, and such as a condition of salvation. He argued his position by insisting on salvation by faith rather than works. His opponents accused him of antinomianism, that is, being anti-law, not requiring any obedience at all.
Paul considered those who reason thus to be condemned — and justly so. I would far rather be with Paul, suffering the slander, than with those guilty of the slander.
I no more teach antinomianism than Paul did, but any student of Paul knows that he frequently felt obliged to defend himself from the accusation. If I suffer from the same problem, then I’m in good company and likely about where I need to be theologically — not actually teaching antinomianism, of course, but so far removed from legalism that a died-in-the-wool legalist thinks so. They thought the same of Paul.
But what did Paul really teach?
But here’s the thing — we are saved by faith, in order to live in righteousness. But the salvation comes first. Living in righteousness is a result, not a condition. Those who are saved will live righteously. You can even fall away if you rebel against God. But for those saved, obedience is “from the heart” (v. 17) because our hearts have been circumcised by the Spirit (Rom 2:29) and so we are led by the Spirit (Rom 8:14). And the test is thus whether we are led by the Spirit (Rom 8:9-11), not whether we get instrumental music or whatever right.
If we’re truly led by the Spirit, then we’ll be less than perfect, but God will judge our hearts, and we’ll stand at Judgment, because God will make us stand (Rom 14:4).
You tell your 4-year old daugher to clean her dress shoes. She dutifully puts them in a sink filled with soapy water — just the way she helped clean the dished the night before. The shoes are ruined. Only a monster would punish her. In her heart, she was obedient. But any parent would also instruct her and be confident that such an obedient child will get it right the next time — and yet expect her to make the mistakes that all children make.
Just so, we children of God stand before God based on the state of our hearts, but because we are obedient children, we welcome instruction. And because we are only children, we sometimes misunderstand. We’re still good with God.
Does that mean it’s “okay” to soak your dress shoes in a sink of water? Well, that’s the wrong question, isn’t it? I mean, the question itself entirely misses the point. No, it’s not okay! Shoes cost money! But the daughter isn’t punished because good parents judge the heart, and because of her heart, punishment isn’t necessary or even helpful.