The Fork in the Road: Moral vs. Positive Law: Baptized into Christ

Argument 3.

It would be a mistake, of course, to discuss morality without discussing Christology. We are baptized “into” Christ. We become a part of his body on earth. We are transformed by the Spirit into his likeness. Therefore, acting/becoming like Jesus is moral. All else is positive.

What did Jesus do on earth? Preached the good news of the kingdom of heaven, did works of compassion, and gave his life to serve those he loves. This is moral. All else is positive.

(Rom 6:1-5)  What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. 5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.

We use this as a proof text on baptism, but we overlook the reason Paul actually wrote it. Paul says in baptism we died with Jesus and so are resurrected with Jesus. This assures us that we’ll be resurrected at the end of time. Continue reading

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Perseverance: A Reply to Randall

Randall challenged me to re-open the discussion on the perseverance of the saints (POTS) or “once saved, always saved.” Historically, the Churches of Christ have rejected this view uniformly, but now there is movement in some circles toward a more Calvinistic or Baptist understanding.

I may not post on this question at quite the same pace as on other topics, but it’s something I have thought about. And I’ve offered my views on the perseverance of the saints (POTS) many times (I disagree). And I’ve been disagreed with many times, usually very articulately.

And so, Randall, I’ll make these deal with you. Since here we are in the midst of a discussion of Hebrews, let’s talk about the views in Hebrews on POTS. Too often, when we run into a difficult passage, we respond, “It can’t mean that because of what John or Paul said somewhere else!” But we can’t just write Hebrews out of the New Testament. I’m not saying you can’t refer to other passages; I’m just saying let’s not talk past each other. The discussion needs to be about what Hebrews says — at least for a while. Continue reading

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The Fork in the Road: A Reply to John, Part 2 (Regarding Confession and Forgiveness)

Many in the Churches of Christ have taught that, while baptism forgives our former sins, future sins are forgiven by a three-step process —

1. Confess the sin to God (1 John 1:9).

2. Repent of the sin.

3. Ask God for forgiveness.

Many add a fourth step –

4. Make restitution. Continue reading

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Faith Lessons by Ray Vander Laan: The Good Samaritan

RVL tells the story of being in class in a Jewish university. The rabbi taught the Parable of the Good Samaritan, as taught by Rabbi Yeshua (Hebrew for “Jesus”), and he declared this the greatest parable ever told! The Jewish students who heard the parable, many of whom had just heard it for the first time, were astonished and amazed at the teaching.

The rabbi asked RVL to explain its greatness to the class, as RVL is a disciple of Rabbi Yeshua. But RVL did not see the point the rabbi wanted to make. You see, RVL had never heard this story from the Old Testament — Continue reading

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The Fork in the Road: A Reply to John, Part 1 (Regarding Hebrews 10)

[A comment I made yesterday, edited a tad, and moved to be a main post.]

John wrote,

Jay,

[His laws of pardon are] [r]epentance of sin, confession of fault, and prayer to God for forgiveness. 1 John 1.7 is a passage of great comfort, and it seems there is some covering going on there. But, at some point, there has to be a line that when crossed requires a specific response on my part. If it is not there, then anything I may do, anything whatever, is covered. I could not fall. I don’t understand the Bible to teach that I cannot fall. I do not know precisely where that line is. I do the best I can and trust God to take care of me. The fact that I can’t precisely identify the line, doesn’t mean it’s not there. Here lies a dead man. Something caused him to die. I may not know what the cause was, but he’s still dead. Continue reading

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The Fork in the Road: The Nashville Tennessean Weighs In

A week ago, Bob Smietana, a reporter for the Tennessean newspaper in Nashville, emailed me, asking for an interview for a story he was working on regarding the progressive Churches of Christ. I tried to set up a time, but our schedules never coincided.

His story was published today. I think you’ll find it to be an interesting read (even though I’m not quoted :roll:).

Here are a few excerpts — Continue reading

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The Fork in the Road: Rich’s Question

Rich asked,

When I think of the concept of law within the Bible I think of anything I must obey. Jesus said, “If you love me, keep my commandments.” I equate the generic term ‘law’ with ‘commandments’ whatever they may be. Therefore, Paul isn’t contrasting generic law. He is contrasting ‘the law’ (old law) with new law (faith based obedience).

So, when you say there is no law today, only love, I understand that as opposite to the words of Jesus.

Please elaborate.

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The Fork in the Road: Moral vs. Positive Law: Those led by the Spirit aren’t under law

Argument 2.

In Galatians, Paul continues to explain why obedience to the positive command of circumcision is pointless.

(Gal 5:18) But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.

Now, we try take this statement, turn it on its head, and declare that “led by the Spirit” means “obey all the laws.” Obviously, that’s not Paul’s point.

(Gal 5:22-25)  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.

Plainly, Paul is saying that the old concept of obedience to a book of rules is replaced by submission to the work of the Spirit in our hearts. These are “fruit of the Spirit,” not fruit of my hard work or my obedience to God’s laws. Continue reading

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The Fork in the Road: Moral vs. Positive Law: Love Fulfills the Law

I contend that Benjamin Franklin has it exactly backwards: moral law is higher than positive law. Indeed, I question whether God even makes positive law any more.

Argument 1.

(Rom 13:8) Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.

This and the several parallel passages from the Sermon on the Mount, Galatians, and James all point to the conclusion that if it’s not subsumed in “love one another,” it’s not law.

Moral law is whatever law is subsumed within “love your neighbor,” and by and large, positive law is any other command. Continue reading

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Faith Lessons by Ray Vander Laan: Crossing the Red Sea

We continue to consider RVL’s lessons on how to think as the First Century Jews thought, that is, with an Eastern point of view. (“RVL” is what his students call Ray Vander Laan and how he often refers to himself.)

To think Eastern, it’s critical that you first see the picture before you try to draw the lesson. Don’t jump quickly to conclusions. Rather, study the story at length. What happened? Why did it happen?

Consider the Exodus. God told the Israelites to prepare to leave Egypt. They were not wealthy and certainly wouldn’t have had the ability to carry many of their possessions with them. They fled Egypt and were soon pursued by the Egyptian army on chariots. The crossed the Red Sea and watched as God destroyed the Egyptian forces

Now, put yourself in the place of an Israelite woman told to pack for the journey. Continue reading

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