The Fork in the Road: The Progressive Line, Part 2.5

Let’s see. I put up a post, based on 1 John, suggesting that whether we are remain saved or have fallen away depends on love, and some find that my teaching lacks substance or even implies antinomianism (the absence of law). It’s not remotely true, and so I’ve been wondering why I’m failing to communicate.

It occurs to me that one reason my way of explaining all this doesn’t always communicate is my choice of “repentance” as the word to explain a key part of the standard. Sometimes I forget my roots.

Growing up in the Church, the usual sense of “repent” was found in the doctrine of “grace” we were taught — that to be forgiven of a sin, we must become aware of the sin, confess that sin to God and the person sinned against (going forward for a public sin), make restitution, ask for forgiveness, and repent. In this context, “repent” means “no longer be guilty of that particular sin.” Continue reading

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The Fork in the Road: The Progressive Line, Part 2

Second, one thing that greatly bothers many who first hear this teaching is the lack of objective commands. Faith and penitence are so subjective — surely there are actual commands that must be obeyed!

Again, harken back to when we first baptize a convert. What commands must they obey to be saved? Well, often the only command we teach, at first, is baptism. And we expect them to obey what they’ve learned because they are penitent. But we don’t ask them to confess a position on instrumental music or male elders.

But, by definition, penitence means a willingness to obey God’s commands. Where does a convert learn God’s commands? Well, from the faith community that converted her and from the scriptures. And because the convert has a heart for God, we expect the convert to be willing to receive instruction from her congregation and from the Bible. Continue reading

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Replanting a Denomination: Answering Some Questions, Part 2

3. Strategy: “How will we get the job done?” Leaders re-equip members and themselves with whatever it will take to reach for their new future. They plot and prepare for the step-by-step progress that will make the dream come true.

So is there a vision that would simultaneously —

* Preserve our positive insights in doctrine and praxis (how to do things)?

* Allow us to work to end the competition among and isolation of denominations and churches?

* Allow for the preservation of parachurch institutions that support the work of local congregations, such as seminaries and missions support organizations?

* Be true to the scriptures?

Well, I have a crazy idea. I’m very open to alternatives. I’m still in the looking and listening phase of my thinking. But consider this one. Continue reading

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Christian Evidences: New Archaeological Find

This is from the Jerusalem Post, by way of the Jesus Creed

A breakthrough in the research of the Bible has shed new light on the period in which the Bible could have been written, testifying to Hebrew writing abilities as early as the 10th century BCE, the University of Haifa announced on Thursday.

Prof. Gershon Galil of the Department of Biblical Studies at the University of Haifa recently deciphered an inscription dating from the 10th century BCE, and showed that it was a Hebrew inscription, making it the earliest known Hebrew writing.

This breakthrough indicates that at least some of the scriptures were composed hundreds of years before the dates previously believed, and that the Kingdom of Israel already existed at that time. The 10th century BCE was the period of King David’s reign.

Some have argued that the scriptures cannot be as old as the Bible claims because the Jews weren’t able to write Hebrew that early. This discovery proves that Hebrew was written at least as early as the time of David and Samuel — and Samuel is often credited as the author of several Old Testament books.

Now, another cool thing is what the text says,

1 you shall not do [it], but worship the [Lord].

2 Judge the sla[ve] and the wid[ow] / Judge the orph[an]

3 [and] the stranger. [Pl]ead for the infant / plead for the po[or and]

4 the widow. Rehabilitate [the poor] at the hands of the king.

5 Protect the po[or and] the slave / [supp]ort the stranger.

It sounds very much like the principles found in the law of Moses — and expressing attitudes to the weak and helpless very foreign to the surrounding nations.

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The Fork in the Road: The Progressive Line, Part 1

Hank asked a series of questions regarding the difference between the conservative and progressive points of view. I’m going to try to answer them.

My point is that the answer IS NOT to just deny that there even is a line. The answer is not to argue that because it is too hard to “articulate” precisely where the line is…to then simply say there is no line. Otherwise (if there is no line, anywhere), then what would be the point in trying to know and adhere to the revealed will of God in various matters? Seriously? But if their is a line SOMEWHERE…then progressives are surely under the same amount of pressure to articulate where said line is as are conservatives? But for progressives to point out the “failure” and “inability” of conservatives to precisely reveal where “the line” is, without being able to do it themselves, is like the guy throwing rocks from inside his own glass house. I just get frustrated at how the progrssives are in the very same boat, but refuse to accept it. You see, they must either:

1. Say there is no line anywhere — which would be total chaos.
2. Say there is a line and then precisely articulate as to where it is with each individual and in regarding every topic.

OR…

3. Understand that while there is a line, they do not know exactly where it is for every person in every situation (even their own) — but then they would have no assurance of salvation right? Continue reading

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Surprised by Hope: Mission and the End of Time, Part 2

To understand our salvation, we have to understand what the Curse cost us.

Multiply

(Gen 1:28a)  God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.”

Sex and bearing children aren’t a curse but a part of the blessed existence God designed for us at the beginning. Indeed, the scriptures repeatedly speak of children as blessings.

(Psa 127:4-5)  Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one’s youth. 5 Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate.

(Psa 128:2-4)  You will eat the fruit of your labor; blessings and prosperity will be yours. 3 Your wife will be like a fruitful vine within your house; your sons will be like olive shoots around your table. 4 Thus is the man blessed who fears the LORD.

(Job 42:12-13)  The LORD blessed the latter part of Job’s life more than the first. He had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen and a thousand donkeys. 13 And he also had seven sons and three daughters.

Marriage

(Gen 2:18)  The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

The only thing declared “not good” in the creation was man without a wife. Continue reading

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Ministry Ideas: Haiti and the Culture of Poverty

jesus-washing-footAs we ponder the horrific results of the earthquake in Haiti, we can’t help but realize the greatest problem suffered by Haiti is poverty, not natural disaster. But for their severe, intransigent poverty, the damage done by the earthquake would have been orders of magnitude less.

But the world — particularly the United States — has been pouring money into Haiti for a very long time. And according to David Brooks, with the New York Times, Haiti has more NGOs — non-governmental organizations — per capita working to improve things than any other country. And yet it remains desperately poor.

Meanwhile, many churches are looking to Haiti and considering whether to launch their own efforts there. Perhaps they can make a difference? But so many have tried and so few have succeeded. What do we do?

Obviously, in the short run, we give money and do what we can to help them deal with the immediate tragedy. But if all we do is return things to normal, well, Haitian normal is a very sad thing.

And so, once the immediate catastrophe is over, what can we do to make things truly better for the Haitians? Continue reading

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Replanting a Denomination/The Fork in the Road: In Reply to Greg

Greg wrote,

My Friends;

Let me first state, for the record, I have never believed that Jay Guin has ever attempted to misrepresent my convictions and I have every confidence that Jay wants to honestly examine the issues before us.

I deeply regret that various personal matters caused me to fail in maintaining the dialog with Jay in our earlier exchanges.

Jay does, however, infer many things from my writings which are not quite what I intended to communicate. As to the matters at hand, permit me to speak to my convictions:

First, I believe we are saved by the grace of God. This grace is conditional, the conditions arising from the nature of the atonement. These conditions are repentance and faith expressed in the Good Confession and in Baptism into Christ. In no way does one earn salvation in the water of baptism, one receives salvation. Baptism is an act of Grace.

Second, I believe that God the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in each person who is baptized into Christ.

Third, while I believe the days of signs and wonders ended with the last one on whom an apostle imparted miraculous powers (late first or early second century), I believe restricting the work of the Holy Spirit to His work through the Bible contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture.

I hope my views on these matters are clear.

-Greg Tidwell

Readers,

Do you see why I say that Greg is my favorite conservative preacher? Continue reading

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Replanting a Denomination: Answering Some Questions, Part 1

Let’s see if we can find answers to some of the questions posed back in this post

1. Identity: “Why are, we in business? What are our assets and strengths?” Members rediscover who they are and why they exist as a [denomination] in this place and time.

Why are the Churches of Christ in business? What are our assets and strengths? Those are not easy questions.

We began 200 years ago as a unity movement. We became a movement rife with division. But the original vision was a good one: treat as saved all penitent believers. That was a great moment in Christian history, but it’s no longer a sufficient basis for a renewed movement. You see, despite our best efforts to frustrate his goals, Alexander Campbell’s dream is well on its way to becoming reality. That’s how most Protestants already believe.

The Orthodox and Catholics largely insist that those outside their communions are damned. There are some denominations that are the same way. But most denominations would recognize all penitent believers as saved.

100 years ago we organized around opposition to instrumental music and missionary societies, and we were wrong on both counts — wrong because we made both issues salvation issues, contrary to the scriptures. Continue reading

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Surprised by Hope: Mission and the End of Time, Part 1

The translators of 2 Pet 3:10-13 are steeped in the traditional view that the world in which we live will be burned into nothingness, and we’ll then be swept away into disembodied bliss in a spiritual existence in heaven. Therefore, their translation of 2 Pet 3:10-13 is prejudiced toward what they knew to be true before they started.

But if we read Romans and Revelation carefully, we see a very different imagery. And if we notice the parallels with the concept of “new creation,” in which our salvation and receipt of the Spirit somehow anticipates our new existence in our resurrected bodies in the renewed heavens and earth, we see how Romans and Revelation describe a purified and transformed creation, just as our own bodies will be purified and transformed — a process that has already begun.

Indeed, if we ponder the nature of the resurrection, it starts to really fit together. Jesus’ body left the grave, but it left as something both different and the same. It was entirely healed from the crucifixion, could walk through walls, and wasn’t recognized as Jesus unless he wanted it to be. And it was capable of ascent into heaven to be in the presence of God.

Therefore, the renewed heavens and earth will be, I think, much like that. They’ll be made out of the best parts of the original heavens and earth but will be wondrously different. They’ll no longer be subject to decay — they’ll last forever.

This will require some melting. After all, if you were to break a sword, you’d have to melt it to fix it. But it’d be the same sword remade. Indeed, in the hands of a master craftsman, the sword could be made so well that it would never break again. Continue reading

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