1 Corinthians 14:33b-37 (Presentations at Pepperdine on the Role of Women)

Pepperdine2015Randy Elliot’s presentation has, at long last, been posted as a podcast.

Randy participated in the discussion here a few days before Pepperdine regarding the interpretation of 1 Cor 14:33b-37, which was the subject of his PBL talk. (It’s number 162 in the list.)

You can play it here.

Randy references an earlier talk at Pepperdine by Ken Cukrowski, also on the role of women. It’s here:

And here is Christopher Hutson’s presentation on 1 Tim 2:11-15:

About Jay F Guin

My name is Jay Guin, and I’m a retired elder. I wrote The Holy Spirit and Revolutionary Grace about 18 years ago. I’ve spoken at the Pepperdine, Lipscomb, ACU, Harding, and Tulsa lectureships and at ElderLink. My wife’s name is Denise, and I have four sons, Chris, Jonathan, Tyler, and Philip. I have two grandchildren. And I practice law.
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10 Responses to 1 Corinthians 14:33b-37 (Presentations at Pepperdine on the Role of Women)

  1. Randy Elliott says:

    If anyone would like the associated Powerpoint slideshow email me at: [email protected].
    There are a couple of places that in my haste l didn’t cite the passages audibly that the class was viewing on the slides.

  2. Randy says:

    Hi Jay. Now the slides work but no sound plays on the audio link.

  3. Jay Guin says:


    We had an attack on the server back a few months ago that broke links to several media files — mainly the little pictures at the top of each post. I think I have these repaired now. Fortunately, like Jesus, I save. That is, I keep back ups. (It’s an allusion to a bad computer programming joke and only funny because it’s 12:30 and can’t fall asleep.)

    You see, Jesus and Satan had a contest to see who could write the most computer code in 20,000 years. At that 19,999 year mark, Satan was far ahead of Jesus — his fingers being blazingly fast. I mean, he was on fire! But as so often happens, his computer crashed just as the deadline was approaching. Maybe it was a gremlin rebelling against the Dark Lord. The power went off at both work stations. Satan lost everything. And even though Jesus’ computer also crashed, he lost none of his own. You see, Jesus saves.

  4. Dwight says:

    And there was a collective worldwide groan!

  5. Randy says:

    Jay, “Jesus saves” is a favorite phrase of mine too! In the same context. 🙂

  6. Randy says:

    The audio link is still not working. Is it on my end that the problem lies?

  7. Jay Guin says:


    They work on my end — after I fixed link problems last night. You may need to clear your cache. Shift F5 or Ctrl F5 should reload the page without old files.

  8. Mark says:

    Here is a link to the current argument in Orthodox Judaism, some sections of which are more open to women than others. It sounds similar to what has been argued within Christian denominations.


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