Radical Reconciliation: Post at Wineskins

Baptism (1)I’ve written a post just up at Wineskins called “We Are Much More Saved,” discussing how certain our salvation post-baptism really is.

A sequel will appear shortly.

About Jay F Guin

My name is Jay Guin, and I’m a retired elder. I wrote The Holy Spirit and Revolutionary Grace about 18 years ago. I’ve spoken at the Pepperdine, Lipscomb, ACU, Harding, and Tulsa lectureships and at ElderLink. My wife’s name is Denise, and I have four sons, Chris, Jonathan, Tyler, and Philip. I have two grandchildren. And I practice law.
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3 Responses to Radical Reconciliation: Post at Wineskins

  1. Kevin says:

    Great post, Jay. I appreciate the remarks concerning Rom 5 and I John 1. Ahab was one of the most detestable characters in the OT, yet God was eager to show him mercy at the slightest demonstration of humbleness:

    1 Kings 21:20-29: Ahab said to Elijah, “Have you found me, O my enemy?” He answered, “I have found you, because you have sold yourself to do what is evil in the sight of the Lord. 21 Behold, I will bring disaster upon you. I will utterly burn you up, and will cut off from Ahab every male, bond or free, in Israel. 22 And I will make your house like the house of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, and like the house of Baasha the son of Ahijah, for the anger to which you have provoked me, and because you have made Israel to sin. 23 And of Jezebel the Lord also said, ‘The dogs shall eat Jezebel within the walls of Jezreel.’ 24 Anyone belonging to Ahab who dies in the city the dogs shall eat, and anyone of his who dies in the open country the birds of the heavens shall eat.”
    25 (There was none who sold himself to do what was evil in the sight of the Lord like Ahab, whom Jezebel his wife incited. 26 He acted very abominably in going after idols, as the Amorites had done, whom the Lord cast out before the people of Israel.)
    27 And when Ahab heard those words, he tore his clothes and put sackcloth on his flesh and fasted and lay in sackcloth and went about dejectedly. 28 And the word of the Lord came to Elijah the Tishbite, saying, 29 “Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the disaster in his days; but in his son’s days I will bring the disaster upon his house.”

    You wrote, “Regarding “at the right time,” I refer to readers to a series starting tomorrow at my blog One In Jesus called “Exile and Repentance.””

    Sounds interesting. I am reading NT Wright’s “Justification,” which is a response to criticism by John Piper. I think Wright’s views on Israel’s continuing exile (from the return from exile to Christ) to have a lot of merit. I am interested in ascertaining JDG Dunn’s thoughts, which seem to diverge from Wright on this topic.

  2. Jay Guin says:


    “Justification” is a good read. I found myself largely in agreement with Wright and in disagreement with Piper. Piper is a wonderful writer and thinker, but can’t keep up with Wright. Wright refuses to argue in traditional Reformation categories, and Piper can only think in traditional Reformation categories. So it’s the old, if you disagree with me, then you must believe … argument rather than actually paying attention to what’s being said.

    I’ve read some of Dunn, such as his commentary on Galatians, and don’t recall him dealing with the topic. Let me know what you find out.

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