Why Can’t We Tell Right from Wrong? Part 3 (Jesus and Paul)

We need to consider a hermeneutical principle not often taught in our literature.

We often misunderstand God’s words because we misunderstand who he is.

I mean, how often have I been misunderstood by someone — someone who thought I’d said something hateful or insensitive? I always find myself responding that you would not have misunderstood me if only you knew me!

God feels the same way. Words only get us so far. Until we know God better, we’ll inevitably misunderstand him. And the same is true as we try to understand one another.

This is what I understand Patrick to have meant when he said on the video,

What the Bible does is tells me about Jesus; and I don’t read Jesus through Paul. I read Paul through Jesus. And I think the churches of Christ are getting this, that we no longer read all of the Bible as equal.

Obviously, Patrick did not intend to say that somehow Jesus’ words contradict and overrule the words of Paul. If you knew Patrick, you’d know that.

And yet the Internet is filled with venomous attacks on this man of God, as though we could judge him on so little — while making not the least effort to understand him. Indeed, it’s easy to see that many listened only well enough to find a way to attack. This is not love.

You see, I understood him to mean something else — a something else that I easily found in his writings in less than five minutes of searching

[R]ead the story of Jesus again and again. Get to know his voice. As Hebrews 1 says, Jesus is what God looks like, sounds like, IS like.

The Bible is a finger pointing to Jesus. I love the Bible but I love Whom it points to even more. We are, after all, the Church of Christ – not the church of those other guys.

In other words, to understand Paul, we need to know the Person for whom Paul is an emissary: God. To know God, we need to know his Son, who came to more fully reveal God to us. The Gospels most fully reveal Jesus. Those of us in the Churches of Christ should especially understand how central Jesus is to God’s revelation.

Get to know God, and then you’ll better understand the words of his apostles. And we do this best through Jesus.

This is not heresy. It’s sound hermeneutics. And it’s giving Patrick, a brother in Christ, the benefit of the doubt. And taking the time to understand the man before judging him. It’s loving one another as Jesus first loved us. It’s loving him well enough to listen for the truth in his words, not just to find a way to put him down.

There are many among us who owe him an apology.

(Mat 12:11-13 ESV) 11 He said to them, “Which one of you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” 13 Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And the man stretched it out, and it was restored, healthy like the other.

To God, a man is more valuable than a sheep. Therefore, if it’s permitted to relieve a sheep of its suffering on a Sabbath, it is that much more  permitted to heal a man.

You can only understand God’s laws if you first understand God. After all, there is no rule in the Torah that creates an exception for healing. Jesus found the exception, not in the words of the text, but in the heart of God.

So what is God’s heart for women? How do we find that? How do we with confidence know? Well, we consider all that God has told us through his scriptures, but we consider it in light of the heart of the God of love, who blesses first and asks us to respond in love. And we pay special attention to the Gospels, not because the Gospels are all that God says on the subject, but because the Gospels best help us understand the heart of God.

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12 Responses to Why Can’t We Tell Right from Wrong? Part 3 (Jesus and Paul)

  1. Mark says:

    In the traditional cofC, Paul was the issuer of commands and laws. Paul was ahead of Jesus and far in front of any other person whose name is in the Bible. Paul was preached on about 45-49 Sundays per year. I’m not sure why the Iove affair with Paul or if to justify some rules and extend no grace, the writings of Paul had to be taken out of context and talked about every Sunday. I believe there was a fear of preaching or discussing Jesus, even in Sunday school, so as to not have to reconcile Paul’s teaching with Jesus’s.

  2. Very helpful article, Jay. Thanks.

  3. Dwight says:

    Often I think Paul is preached because Paul addresses problems and in the coC we see problems everywhere and thus we preach the solutions or answers from Paul, but If we regard Jesus first, then most of the problems that Paul had to deal with go away. The coC has traditionally taught that it is not the problem or that the coC has no problems, but others do. They take on the position of Paul in relation to other saints in other towns, but the coC preaches to its own and not other saints in other towns, so we must take on the position of Jesus.

  4. Ray Downen says:

    I can’t agree that the gospels best help us understand God. I’m sure that apostolic teaching is not found in the gospels, but is instead in things written by the apostles and their associates. It’s obvious that to learn more about JESUS we turn to the gospels. But to learn what Jesus wants US to know and do we’ll never learn that from the gospels. Jesus taught people who lived under a code of law. Apostolic teaching is NOT legalistic.

    But it’s what the apostles taught and practiced that should guide us who now seek to please Jesus. Jesus selected them, taught them, and empowered them with HIS SPIRIT. What He earlier taught is NOT more important or more weighty to US than what He taught through His apostles. I surely agree that it’s in the gospels that we learn about Jesus Himself and what He taught Jews and what He did for people then alive.

    But He promised the apostles they would be led into ADDITIONAL truths that He had chosen to NOT teach while on earth. I believe Him. The NEW covenant came into effect AFTER the resurrection of Jesus. We live under the NEW covenant, the apostolic teaching concerning the kingdom set up by Jesus AFTER His resurrection. He advised one wealthy youth that he should sell his possessions and then walk WITH JESUS. Jesus is not here so that we can walk WITH Him. The advice given to people during the life of Jesus must always be understood in light of the change of covenants following His resurrection.

  5. Dwight says:

    Ray, I think you are mostly right in that the gospel is not limited to the “gospels” in that Jesus death placed the gospels into action and they were realized in Acts by the apostles and these same apostles did indeed give new prophetic teachings at certain points. And yet the new apostilic teachings don’t take up the majority of the text, while correcting them in what they should know and what they should be doing does. Of course these “gospels” were written after Acts so there is the question of did the new converts have any of Jesus words past the point of the apostles telling as is what happened in Acts 2, at least until they were written later. Thousands were converted knowing what was related to them about Jesus by the apostles. Now it is entirely possible and highly probable that the apostles through the HS related Jesus, His words and his life to the lost and saved and yet this would have been verbally and limited in that until written down and these writings came later. Paul expressed that he was a pattern for the people as Jesus was a pattern for him. But still we have the benefits of the 4 gospels, so let’s use them greatly.

  6. Ray, if Jesus is not here, who was it who said, “Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age”? Who was it who said to a church that was lukewarm, “if any man will hear my voice and will open the door, I will come in and sup with him and he with me.” Who said, “Where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there in the midst of them”?

  7. Alabama John says:

    WE can learn good lessons to preach from books of others not in our Bible. I like Thomas that many felt should be included with Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. and also bold, action driven Peter who we actually don’t hear much of later in our new Testament.

    Other favorites to think about for their different perspective on things is Book of Judas and one of the loving Ruth. Women were not too well thought of in King James time.

    Many lessons come from our Bible and many are put together from verses picked in and out of context but in all, a good point is made.

    Always interesting to hear preachers from different denominations using verses we use like Acts 2;38 to command baptism and a Church of God holiness preacher friend of mine has that verse on all his letterheads, e-mails, etc. and his take on it is stressing receiving the Holy Ghost.
    He quotes it even more than we do and I like how he throws out his chest and raises his voice when he gets to that last part and then follows with a loud AMEN!!!. He preaches what he sees as the end result of Acts 2:38.

  8. laymond says:

    Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
    Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

    “We often misunderstand God’s words because we misunderstand who he is.

    I mean, how often have I been misunderstood by someone — someone who thought I’d said something hateful or insensitive? I always find myself responding that you would not have misunderstood me if only you knew me!

    God feels the same way. ”

    Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    It must be a great feeling to speak for God, and compare one’s self to God, and how he feels.
    But I believe Isaiah said God’s word accomplishes what he set it out to do.

  9. Price says:

    Like this post a lot !! I believe in some assemblies God has been represented to be the Great Punisher who looks for every wrong to punish and to remove favor from those to close to the slippery slope. One can easily distinguish the attitudes of the assemblies that represent God as a loving Father full of Grace and Mercy.

  10. Price says:

    Jerry those were excellent questions. I can think of a dozen more examples but you made the point sufficiently !!

  11. Red says:

    Jay, the legalistic cofC’s I attended preached a legalistic Paul and certainly emphasized Paul more than Jesus. The irony of this to me is Paul better understood grace than any of the other apostles since he was forgiven and saved on his way to hurt Christians. Thanks for this post and series. The more I learn about Jesus the more I love Him and others around me. Women are gifted by God we have short-changed them and us by hindering their gifts.

  12. R.J. says:

    And remember. Savaging a big ol sheep from the pit is hard strenuous work!

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